Comments on: Iran Nuclear Watch: The Two Red Lines; Update: Israel is Bluffing?

By: sassinfras

sassinfras — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:01:29 +0000

all your links and past post is the basic propoganda line coming from israel. there is no SOLID evidence. you do not bomb a country beause of ‘suspect,may or probable’ reasons. it just like WMD fiasco.
iran has alot to be dirty at USA for. since the overthrow of the shah the USA has been meddling in iranian affairs, supporting saddam into a decade long war with iran,stuff i already mention but you say is untrue but really is.
what is happening now is the manipulation of the facts for war. why are you supporting this silliness. diplomacy without conditions is the only way to get results. the USA war manufactures are always looking for a new enemy real or imagined to justify the budgets they recieve . just look at how much the USA spends on war and killing to how much they spend on saving lifes and medical research-masisvely huge difference.you guys i think are really controlled by the industrial war machine and you make enemies from your foreign policies.
we are just going nowhere on this subject so i’ll agree to disagree with your hype.

By: Flap

Flap — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:52:41 +0000

The post you reference is from February 2003 and before the Iraq War, no?

So, I am doing your research for you after you have already drawn conclusions. Isn’t that ass backwards?

By: sassinfras

sassinfras — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:38:50 +0000

if i knew how to create the links i would, i’m computer illiterate. but if you type in ‘operation ajax’ , ‘USS vincennes’,'a clean break’[which is a must], and at’ http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/5555‘ which has what i’m talking about.
the links you provided just proves my point there is not real evidence just speculation with the words ‘could’,'may’,'suspects’ and my favorite ‘viable’.
there is a pattern developing- i remember years ago it was arafrat and Fata which was causing the troubles, then lybia and gaddaffi who were the threat to world peace and must be bomded,then to the mad mullas of iran, then syria was the threat, then when arafat signed peace with israel he was a stateman but morfed back into a terrorist when israel wouldn’t hold up their end of the bargain, saddam was the villian when he attacked kuwait after being a US friend ,and now we are back to the mullas. the only thing the above have in common is they are considered enemies of israel. now israel is using the US war machine to do its dirty work and iran is next. if you read the ‘clean break paper’ written in 1996 you can see the thinking which has created the current mess in the middle east.
sorry i couldn’t provide the links but if you type in any of the above you will see.
t.s eliot was said -’ justice itself tends to be corrupted by political passion,and that meddling in other peoples affairs which was formerly conducted by the most discreet intrigue is now openly advocated under the name of intervention. nations which once shrank from condemning the most flagitous violations of human rights in germany,are now exhorted to interfere in other countries governments-and always in the name of peace and concord. respect for the culture,the pattern of life,of other people….is respect for history;and by history we set no great score.’.

By: Flap

Flap — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:23:49 +0000

As I thought. You cannot provide any evidence – just bloviations.

Try the search feature in the right sidebar and enter Iran. There are many posts that go back years. And, they have links with references.

By: sassinfras

sassinfras — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:20:11 +0000

the evidence is there and you know it. the name of the US warship that shot down the airbus killing 290 civillians was the ‘vincennes’ and the US captain who ordered it was Cpt Will Rogers. and the sick thing about it the crew of the ‘vincennes’were decorated for shooting down this aeroplane. the iraqis had used gas to recapture Fao on 19 april 1988 to the virtual indifference of the world.on the 17th and 18th of march the iraqis had gassed the kurdish town of Halabaja killing over 5000 civillians -and in Washington the CIA[ which was still supporting saddam ] sent out a deceitful briefing note to US embassies in the middle east ,stating that the gas may have been drop by the iranians. this evidence was used by the bush administration as part justification for invading iraq,except the part of the CIA.
the USA supported saddam in his war with iran, thats indisputable ,but only complained about saddams war crimes until it needed justification to attack saddam when he turned on USA and invaded kuwait. so long as saddam hussien was americas bad guy it was o.k to use gas,but when saddam was not a friend anymore america was suddenly horrified. when the USA sent its navy to protect the shipping in the gulf they protected iraqi shipping but not the iranian shipping.

You still haven’t answered my question. show me any evidence of iranian aggression against its neighbours or for that matter any country. its all propoganda to make iran the mad dog of the world to justify attack and ultimately reshape the middle east to israels design using americain firepower. read a paper called a ‘clean break’.