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Sarah Palin Watch: CNN Smears Palin on Ties to Alaska Independence Party

Flap thought this Sarah Palin smear about her belonging to a fringe America-seccessionist political party was DEBUNKED weeks ago. Apparently, Rick Sanchez of CNN didn’t get the message (via Ed Morrissey).

Rather than deliver a single revelation, the 24-hour cable news channel coughed up a reheated, overwrought and misleading story that seemed designed to yoke Sarah Palin and her husband to the most extreme secessionists in Alaska.

Yes, Todd Palin once belonged to the Alaskan Independence Party. And his wife, the governor and now Republican vice presidential nominee, has been friendly with some of its members.

But neither CNN nor the other news organizations that have reported on the connection, including The Times, have shown that Sarah Palin embraced the call by some in the party to sever their beloved state from “the Lower 48.”

To understand the AIP story, voters need a little background.

In the eccentric world of Alaska politics, the party is not so far out on the fringe. An AIP member won the governorship in 1990.

CNN centered Tuesday’s report on an interview with Salon.com reporter David Neiwert, who acknowledged that Sarah Palin never belonged to the party and that her husband joined but “wasn’t active at all.”

That didn’t stop the cable network and anchor Sanchez from front-loading its report with outrageous pronouncements from AIP founder Joe Vogler, now deceased.

“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” Old Joe, as he was known, once said. “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.”

Flap would be yawning again with another MSM attack on Sarah Palin. What wakes Flap up with this one are not the misreported facts but the association of Todd and Sarah Palin with the bombing of the federal building in Okalahoma City in 1995. Can you believe this?

Come on CNN. Do your fraking fact checking and lay off the NUTTER conclusions.

Is there any wonder why Fox News is clobbering CNN in the cable news ratings?


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  • Postergirl

    Ok, you’ll have to explain this one to me: How is it that Obama having served on a board regarding education with Ayers makes him someone who “pals around with terrorists” (that’s a Palin quote), but the fact that Todd Palin was a member of a milita-type fringe, anti-American organization for several years, and that Sarah Palin was on very friendly terms with them, does NOT make the Palin’s anti-American?!?! Obama had nothing to do with the organization that Ayers was involved in back in the 60’s but Todd Palin WAS involved very recently for several years, directly with the AIP? CNN didn’t smear the Palins. They reported the facts! They don’t say that Sarah Palin was part of it, they say that Todd was. So he wasn’t that active. If this was an organization that Obama had actually been a member of, there is NO WAY you would be trying to excuse it or think it was no big deal! NO WAY! The Palin’s close ties to the organizations are WAY more troubling than Obama’s tie with Ayers on an education board or even if he had a coffee meet and greet at this house. Todd Palin, THE POTENTIAL VP’S HUSBAND was a member of a fringe, secessionist party… if that is not unpatriotic, I don’t know what is.

  • Jennie edward

    Mc Cain again you did not do your homework no reason your campaign has went crazy and has nothing to talk about.
    You VP not only have the Troopergate under her belt she also have her husband best friend under her panty.
    Last but lease she a ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY . Anti-Americanisn The Sarah Palins and the Fringe ” The fires of hell are frozen glacies compared to my Haltred for the Americangovernment and I wan’t be bured under their damm flag”Sarah Palin and Todd Palin connected with the bombing of the Federal building in Ohalahoma City in 1995 “Can you believe this ?
    If I remember correct there were a daycare center to where a lot of little kids lost their lives too?
    No I can see the reason why she try to talk down Sen.Obama. She is the Terrorist and she the ring leader causing all of this raciest behavior. She preaching all of this hate amoung her supportes and she should be held responsible for their
    crazy out burst. I recommand that Sarah Palin should be removed ASAP from McCain VP. she is starting a war in American and we all know Martin Luthan Kings Jr. gave his life for all of the people. I live in the deep South and the American people has moved on. We will not turn back. Sarah should be responsible for the person that hung this sheet with Obama name on it in the tree with a star of David should be punished alone with Sarah Palin. I can see why her doughter is having a baby out of wedlock. I feel sad for her childern to have to have a mother yelling and telling lies.
    McCain and Sarah Palin is planting dirty seeds they will come up. Please read this letter on the CNN The American People need to know who this Palin person really is

  • Jennie edward

    Sarah Palin is the one a tied to a terroist Alaskan Independence Party. and back in 1995 Sarah Palin and Todd were connected to bombing the Federal building in Okalahoma City and there were a daycare school childerns also lost their little lives. Palin is the cause of all the racies behavior at her rallies and she need to be held responsible for them.
    No I did not say this before…

  • Flap

    @3 Obama received his start in Chicago politics with William Ayers, an unrepentant domestic terrorist. How can you possibly equate this with Todd Palin belong to a party that was in the mainstream in Alaska. A party that he left and while a member was not at all active.

    Todd Palin is not a candidate. Obama is.

    How can you possibly acquit Obama from his association with Ayers?

  • sassinfras

    ayers now is a law abiding citizen who has contributed alot to the people of chicago, esp. in education. ayers 30 years ago is different to ayers of today. obama had some professional dealings with the ‘today’ ayers and the students in chicago are much better off. palin has tried to paint false accusation on obama so its only fair the same standard be applied to her. but in palin case there is something to be concerned about, cause she was a member of US government while her husband was ‘palling around’ with radicals.

  • Kat

    Todd Palin HAS had complete access to Alaskan governmental records, and was active in the Monegan (troopergate) case. He apparently was working as a “team” with Sarah, and had full access, as if he were an employee of the state, and HE’S NOT.

  • Dan Scott

    Does Palin Support McCain’s bill—Indefinite Detention of U.S. Citizens On Mere Suspicion?

    On March 4, 2010, Sen. John McCain introduced S.3081, The “Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010.”

    Sen. McCain’s S.3081 would eliminate several Constitutional protections allowing Government to arbitrarily pick up Americans on mere suspicion—with no probable cause. Your political opinions and statements made against U.S. Government could be used by Authorities to deem you a “hostile” “Enemy Belligerent” to cause your arrest and indefinite detention. S.3081 is so broadly written innocent anti-war protesters and Tea Party Groups might be arrested and detained just for attending demonstrations; Government can charge that attending demonstrations “materially supported hostilities.”

    Considering how often Sarah Palin defends Free Speech, one can’t help wonder why Palin is helping McCain’s reelection to the U.S. Senate after he introduced possibly the most anti-Free Speech Bill in Modern U.S. History. Perhaps Palin or her Tea Party supporters haven’t considered McCain’s legislation might be used by a corrupt government administration to crush them. Tea Parties might question Palin whether she supports Sen. McCain’s bill the “Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010.” (S.3081)

    Under S.3081, an “individual” need only be Suspected by Government of “suspicious activity” or “supporting hostilities” to be dragged off and held indefinitely in Military Custody. Government will have the power to detain and interrogate any individual without probable cause. Government need only allege an individual kept in detention, is an Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent suspected of; having engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners; or has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. How could one prove to Government they did not purposely do something? “Materially Supporting Hostilities” against the United States could include any person or group that spoke out or demonstrated disapproval against an agency of U.S. Government. It is foreseeable many Americans might go underground to Resist Government Tyranny. Definition for Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent: (Anyone Subject to a Military Commission)

    At least under the Patriot Act, law enforcement generally needed probable cause to detain a person indefinitely. Passage of S.3081 will permit government to use “mere suspicion” to curtail an individual’s Constitutional Protections against unlawful arrest, detention and interrogation without benefit of legal counsel and trial. According to S.3081 Government is not required to provide detained individuals U.S. Miranda Warnings or even an attorney.

    S.3081 if passed will frighten Americans from speaking out. S.3081 is so broadly written, it appears any “individual” who writes on the Internet or verbally express an opinion against or an entity of U.S. Government or its coalition partners might be detained on the basis he or she is an “unprivileged enemy belligerent”, “supporting hostilities against U.S. Government.”

    How might Americans respond should Government use this bill to take away their loved ones, family members and friends on mere suspicion? It is foreseeable McCain’s bill will drive lawful political activists underground, perhaps creating the domestic terrorists McCain said we needed to be protected from.

    McCain’s bill mentions “non-violent acts” supporting terrorism in the U.S. and or emanating from America against a Coalition Partner. Non-violent terrorist acts” are covered in the Patriot Act to prosecute Persons that support “coercion to influence a government or intimidation to affect a civilian population.” However, U.S. activists and individuals under S.3081 would be much more vulnerable to prosecution, if (charged with suspicion) of “intentionally providing support to an Act of Terrorism”, for example American activists can’t control what other activists might do illegally—they network with domestically and overseas. Under the Patriot Act, law enforcement generally needs probable cause to detain or prosecute someone. But under S.3081, law enforcement and the military can too easily use (hearsay or informants) to allege “suspicious activity” to detain an individual. It is problematic under S.3081 that detained individuals in the U.S. not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings or allowed legal counsel will be prosecuted for ordinary crimes because of their alleged admissions while in military custody.

    Notably, McCain’s S.3081 mandates (merging) Federal, State and Local Police and subsequently the U.S. Military to detain and hold Individuals in the U.S., even without probable cause. Interestingly a Rand Report prepared for the Army, recently made public, appears to suggest that U.S. Government develop a Local, State and Federal U.S. “National Police Stabilization Force merging State law enforcement with the Feds. What could happen to State Rights and what Laws and Jurisdiction would be used to prosecute state Citizens arrested by a National Police Stabilization Force? A National Police Force could potentially be sent by the President into any State with the approval of its governor, against the wishes of its Citizens? To clarify the Rand Corporation report visit:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=122533

    Historically it is foreseeable under S.3081 that “erroneous informant information” could be used to detain innocent Individuals. Other countries have used lying informants to imprison; even execute political opposition.

    Under S.3081 government may use an individual’s phone call and email information to allege without probable cause “suspicious or hostile activity against a U.S. civilian population or the United States to detain Americans.”

    (Make Your Own Determination If The Analysis Herein Is Correct) See McCain’s 12-page Senate bill S.3081 at:
    assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/ARM10090.pdf

    FYI: below is enclosed a copy of “Hitler’s Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933.” Although the Nazi Decrees are written differently than S.3081, the McCain bill could bring America to the same place crushing free speech and personal liberty. Note how the Nazi Government in Section (1) and (4), similar to U.S. S.3081, suspend personal liberty— shutdown Free Speech to intimidate Citizens speaking out against Government:

    See Section 1
    “Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus, restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.”

    Similar to McCain’s S. 3081, but using different wording the Nazi Government in Section (4) see below, suspended Constitutional rights, ordered the arrest of Citizens for any ACT that might incite or provoke disobedience against state authorities. McCain’s S.3081 instead mentions detaining and prosecuting Individuals for “supporting hostilities” against U.S. Government. S.3081 is so broadly written any person or group attending a protest could be arrested without provable cause and detained if government charged a protest-supported hostilities.

    See Section 4
    Whoever provokes, or appeals for or incites to the disobedience of the orders given out by the supreme state authorities or the authorities subject to then for the execution of this decree, or the orders given by the Reich Government according to Section 2, is punishable—insofar as the deed, is not covered by the decree with more severe punishment and with imprisonment of not less that one month, or with a fine from 150 up to 15,000 Reichsmarks.

    DECREE OF THE REICH PRESIDENT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE AND STATE

    Note: Based on translations by State Department, National Socialism, 1942 PP. 215-17, and Pollak, J.K., and Heneman, H.J., The Hitler Decrees, (1934), pp. 10-11.7

    In virtue of Section 48 (2) of the German Constitution, the following is decreed as a defensive measure against Communist acts of Violence, endangering the state:

    Section 1
    Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus, restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

    Section 2
    If in a state the measures necessary for the restoration of public security and order are not taken, the Reich Government may temporarily take over the powers of the highest state authority.

    Section 4
    Whoever provokes, or appeals for or incites to the disobedience of the orders given out by the supreme state authorities or the authorities subject to then for the execution of this decree, or the orders given by the Reich Government according to Section 2, is punishable—insofar as the deed, is not covered by the decree with more severe punishment and with imprisonment of not less that one month, or with a fine from 150 up to 15,000 Reichsmarks.

    Who ever endangers human life by violating Section 1, is to be punished by sentence to a penitentiary, under mitigating circumstances with imprisonment of not less than six months and, when violation causes the death of a person, with death, under mitigating circumstances with a penitentiary sentence of not less that two years. In addition the sentence my include confiscation of property.

    Whoever provokes an inciter to or act contrary to public welfare is to be punished with a penitentiary sentence, under mitigating circumstances, with imprisonment of not less than three months.

    Section 5
    The crimes which under the Criminal Code are punishable with penitentiary for life are to be punished with death: i.e., in Sections 81 (high treason), 229 (poisoning), 306 (arson), 311 (explosion), 312 (floods), 315, paragraph 2 (damage to railroad properties, 324 (general poisoning).

    Insofar as a more severe punishment has not been previously provided for, the following are punishable with death or with life imprisonment or with imprisonment not to exceed 15 years:

    1. Anyone who undertakes to kill the Reich President or a member or a commissioner of the Reich Government or of a state government, or provokes to such a killing, or agrees to commit it, or accepts such an offer, or conspires with another for such a murder;

    2. Anyone who under Section 115 (2) of the Criminal Code (serious rioting) or of Section 125 (2) of the Criminal Code (serious disturbance of the peace) commits the act with arms or cooperates consciously and intentionally with an armed person;

    3. Anyone who commits a kidnapping under Section 239 of the Criminal with the intention of making use of the kidnapped person as a hostage in the political struggle.

    Section 6
    This decree enters in force on the day of its promulgation.

    Reich President
    Reich Chancellor
    Reich Minister of the Interior
    Reich Minister of Justice