The United States to Disintegrate in 2010?
Political graphic from the Wall Street Journal
For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument — that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S. — very seriously. Now he’s found an eager audience: Russian state media.
“There’s a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur,” he says. “One could rejoice in that process,” he adds, poker-faced. “But if we’re talking reasonably, it’s not the best scenario — for Russia.” Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S.
Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control.
How do you spell Soviet-style disinformation campaign? Please.
Americans have their disagreements and batter each other in free elections but always resolve their differences for the betterment of the country. The balance of power in government created by the country’s founders assures united government.
The United States has already weathered a disastrous Civil War because of slavery. Abraham Lincoln’s words at the time ring true today: “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
The United States is going nowhere.
And, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin will continue to see Russia across the sea from her house.
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25 Comments
guardamuebles teruel
I think maybe seeing the collapse and breakup of the USSR has influenced his ideas a bit too much. I wonder: does he even know how large the Chinese population is in the Pacific West? (California is only 12% Asian – and only a fraction of that is Chinese.) What states have “large Native American populationsâ€? He thinks the South has a large Hispanic population? Did he mean the Southwest? And why would he think Texas would break away separately from states that have a large Hispanic population? The whole thing just seems silly. I have to admit, though, that I’m kind of fascinated by the way hope and fear influences our predictions about the future – and overrule more accurate, rational predictions. I’m also amazed at the number of clueless “experts†in the world.
Ling
I don’t think idiots like this professor realize just how much the world depends on the U.S. After decades of trying to reduce U.S. influence, most countries are now begging for the U.S. to step up to the plate and take charge. Heck, China and Europe and India and the rest wouldn’t let the U.S. go bust even if there was another civil war. Their entire future depends on it.
Flap
@ 1 and @2
The guy is clueless and without Bush to kick around anymore they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to bash America.
Pathetic
FedUp
While his reasons of morality and immigration may seem a bit far-fetched, I don’t think he’s off the mark at all when it comes to economics. Every single large government/empire that has ended, has done so due to it’s financial over-extension. We may think the rest of the world needs us, but with 70+ trillion dollars in obligations and debt, even your best customer becomes a deadbeat when he no longer pays his bills. Who knows what will happen when the bell tolls, but we are in the 11th hour.
Billybob
Damn, when it happens I want to live in Memphis, and Dallas, and Florida too. Why can’t these people get the others out so I can move in the places I really want to live, like maybe the Ozarks are nice too. San Diego was really nice except the assholes who live there now, but when they leave… I’ll Move in.
Ken
Let’s see, China and all their human rights issues, Mexico in control of drug lords… I’ll stay put here in Tennessee or swim across the Mississippi and be part of Canada.
rebellion
hes right about morals there gone right about economy states goin bankrupt jobs closin down federal govt balin out with money we dont have. south carolina succeeds from the union twice and ill fight for s.c. against whoever whenever and whereever.
Stonewall
The election of BHO will prove to be a divisive rather than decisive victory.
The federal reserve and US Treasury destroys the dollar.
Municipal governments go bankrupt.
Social services are interrupted, water and electrical service degrade.
Throw in a natural disaster for good measure.
Social unrest begins.
The heavy handed Fed puts troops on the ground.
Shots are fired.
Chaos.
Loyalties will be to families, culture and land, but, not to the morally bankrupt governments.
The state National guards will revert to a state militias to ensure the integrity and protection of their home states.
Civil war.
paul moen
Christian says: “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, Lean noy on your own understanding, In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight”. Proverbs 3:5-6
FedUp
Bill Maher says: Religion is a mental defect. Mr. Moen, if your faith is a strong as you’d like others to believe it is (based on your post) go watch Religilous for some perspective and come back to defend your comment.
Flap
And, Bill Maher is such an expert.
Maher = left wing homo MORON.
FedUp
Hey, whatever makes you feel better. If it’s name calling, you reign supreme!
Flap
It does make me feel better calling Bill Maher what he is.
It puts everything in perspective.
FedUp
Sure – just don’t have an open mind to other opinions. That would be silly.
Flap
An open mind for a lefty troll like yourself.
Nahhhh no tolerance here.
FedUp
If there is anyone with a ‘liberal’ application of name calling and stereotyping my friend, it’s you. Hope they taught you that at church.
I’m not a troll. I’m someone who has attended Pentecostal and other non-denominational churches for most of my youth and part of my adult life. After enough encounters with ‘loving’ and ‘compassionate’ Christians who are more concerned with name calling and judging, I started to THINK for myself (i.e. leaning MORE on my OWN understanding).
What Christians call Satan casting doubt, I call intelligence. Did you know Greek mythology’s story of Osiris-Dionysus had these ‘similarities’ to Christ:
* Osiris-Dionysus is God made flesh, the savior and “Son of God.â€
* His father is God and his mother is a mortal virgin.
* He is born in a cave or humble cowshed on December 25 before three shepherds.
* He offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites of baptism.
* He miraculously turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony.
* He rides triumphantly into town on a donkey while people wave palm leaves to honor him.
* He dies at Eastertime as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.
* After his death he descends to hell, then on the third day he rises from the dead and ascends to heaven in glory.
* His followers await his return as the judge during the Last Days.
* His death and resurrection are celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine, which symbolize his body and blood.
Seem a little coincidental? Certainly does to me. Given that the story of Dionysus was written 500 years BEFORE CHRIST, I wonder who copied whom. Sure, I’m a troll. Again, if that helps you dismiss holes in your logic, go for it. Besides, I thought this was about the end of the American empire, not religion.
paul moen
Fed-up is really in need of prayer. It is questuioable weather or not the USA is in the Bible at all. That is why we need to trust in the lord.
FedUp
I guess that’s a big “NO” on expanding your mind by questioning some of your (and the other world) regions’ origins and control mechanisms. That’s ok. I suspect most ‘faithful’ Christians would struggle with that idea. Thanks for the prayer, but I think you need it more than I to break the chains of men from 1500 years ago trying to control society.
“Trust in the Lord” is a cop-out to say, “I don’t understand it, life is not fair, but my imaginary friend understands it, and will reward me for my faith”. Think and reason for yourself.
paul moen
I thought this was about the end of the american empire , not religion
FedUp
Sure. That’s what everyone was talking about until you showed up dropping religion into the mix. Remember this comment:
paul moen says:
January 1st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Christian says: “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, Lean noy on your own understanding, In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straightâ€. Proverbs 3:5-6
So you throw religion out there, and when challenged, you conveniently go back on topic. Nice. Ever wonder why Christians have such credibility issues?
paul moen
Isiah, Old Testement 700 yrs. before Christ, check it out. Ch. 53 for starters. Seek the Lord while He may be found.
FedUp
Thought this wasn’t about religion… But, if you insist…
I’m talking about the specific accounts of Christ, not the Old Test[a]ment.
batman
Evinced above, Panarin’s prediction of moral degradation. Signs of the times.
Since Festivus, a great influx of these classic atheistic proselytes have been invading many fine upstanding blogs=houses as this. Similar M.O’s: All claim theistic credentials; Evince inability to distinguish OT and NT; And, usually wind up quoting or paraphrasing Marx, Lenin or Hitler.
This one was classic! Paul offered up an O.T. Proverbs quote, but it sure appears that it was the “C” word that pushed the troll’s launch button.
Watch this:
II Timothy 3, neatly sums up this whole situation. 17 beautiful lines, so apropos.
Verses 6 and 7 describe the troll perfectly.
Verses 12, 13: Do a pretty good job of characterizing the general situation of those rebuking the troll.
And, Matt. 10:14 Sums up what believers should do in this situation.
Pax vobiscum, Paul.
Peace be unto your house, Flap!
FedUp
Another compassionate name-calling Christian.
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