Comments on: Millions Protest Big Government in Washington D.C. Today – 9/12; Update: How Many Protesters? http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/ Flap's Comments on Politics, the Dental World and Much More Tue, 22 May 2012 22:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Virginia Hewett http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-157245 Virginia Hewett Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:56:02 +0000 http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-157245 To the gentleman who said how did they get there and where did they stay...that is rather interesting if you wish to know. I know personally of many people who came by train to the main station and many had to walk to the march site. Did they stay in town....no, they took the return train ride. Riding all night to get there from Florida and riding all night to return. In addition, there were 4500 buses that had permits to park in town that came from as far away as Washington state. I remember speaking to a man from a small town in Ohio of 80,000, which sent 6 buses to the protest. Many additional buses had no permit and dozens of buses were prevented by the police from entering the city because of traffic concerns. I spoke to someone who got off and took a cab in. I met people who had never been on a plane before that flew in as I did and I spoke to some from Orlando whose whole plane was nearly filled with protesters. The ridership on the subway was over 250,000 greater than normal. I rode in at 8 am to beat the traffic and was stunned to stand shoulder to shoulder in the subway. One person I spoke to said his train had to stop because they needed to balance the load in order to continue. My hotel had 3 buses from Georgia staying there. I was there. I met so many who said I just decided to get in my car with a few friends and come. That is how we all got there...in cars, buses, trains, planes, even bicycles. It was a glorious event. When freedom plaza overflowed and blocked Pennsylvania avenue and the surrounding streets and sidewalks...the police said I don't care if the march is to start at 11...you must leave now...there are too many. That was between 930 and 10 am. As to crowd estimates...well if you look at the chart the park officials prepared for the inauguration...the area directly in front on the capital and its pool, by their estimates holds a quarter of a million. We filled that and all of Pennsylvania avenue nearly to the capital and side streets and sidewalks and as much of the mall as we were allowed to use. Another group had booked by not used part of it to try to thwart us...not very much into free speech I guess. We had some that stretched beyond the Washington Monument...and because of the layout it is hard to estimate. However, I would suggest if the area by the capitol holds 250K plus...then it was at least 750K...and it is hard to say how much more. But, when we left...we took the trash home or to the nearest trash can. In addition, we were peaceful and not one was arrested. That is because we are angry but not a "mob". There is a difference. To the gentleman who said how did they get there and where did they stay…that is rather interesting if you wish to know. I know personally of many people who came by train to the main station and many had to walk to the march site. Did they stay in town….no, they took the return train ride. Riding all night to get there from Florida and riding all night to return. In addition, there were 4500 buses that had permits to park in town that came from as far away as Washington state. I remember speaking to a man from a small town in Ohio of 80,000, which sent 6 buses to the protest. Many additional buses had no permit and dozens of buses were prevented by the police from entering the city because of traffic concerns. I spoke to someone who got off and took a cab in. I met people who had never been on a plane before that flew in as I did and I spoke to some from Orlando whose whole plane was nearly filled with protesters. The ridership on the subway was over 250,000 greater than normal. I rode in at 8 am to beat the traffic and was stunned to stand shoulder to shoulder in the subway. One person I spoke to said his train had to stop because they needed to balance the load in order to continue. My hotel had 3 buses from Georgia staying there. I was there. I met so many who said I just decided to get in my car with a few friends and come. That is how we all got there…in cars, buses, trains, planes, even bicycles. It was a glorious event. When freedom plaza overflowed and blocked Pennsylvania avenue and the surrounding streets and sidewalks…the police said I don’t care if the march is to start at 11…you must leave now…there are too many. That was between 930 and 10 am.
As to crowd estimates…well if you look at the chart the park officials prepared for the inauguration…the area directly in front on the capital and its pool, by their estimates holds a quarter of a million. We filled that and all of Pennsylvania avenue nearly to the capital and side streets and sidewalks and as much of the mall as we were allowed to use. Another group had booked by not used part of it to try to thwart us…not very much into free speech I guess. We had some that stretched beyond the Washington Monument…and because of the layout it is hard to estimate. However, I would suggest if the area by the capitol holds 250K plus…then it was at least 750K…and it is hard to say how much more. But, when we left…we took the trash home or to the nearest trash can. In addition, we were peaceful and not one was arrested. That is because we are angry but not a “mob”. There is a difference.

]]> By: Flap http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156297 Flap Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:58:48 +0000 http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156297 @18 You don't believe in reading the follow-ups, do you? And, if you believe everything by Nate Silver, I have a bridge to sell you. <strong>Update:</strong> Here is an update round-up link which pretty much sums up the issue or non-issue of attendance estimates: http://www.julescrittenden.com/2009/09/13/rsvp/ @18 You don’t believe in reading the follow-ups, do you?

And, if you believe everything by Nate Silver, I have a bridge to sell you.

Update:

Here is an update round-up link which pretty much sums up the issue or non-issue of attendance estimates: http://www.julescrittenden.com/2009/09/13/rsvp/

]]> By: Jonathan http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156296 Jonathan Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:32:07 +0000 http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156296 60-70,000 came from the D.C. Fire Department "tens of thousands" came from Fox News Air traffic was no different than usual, hotel reservations were up about 10%, no major issues were reported on the freeways coming in and out of D.C. If 2 million people were there, which is triple D.C.'s usual population, how did they get there and where did they stay? Did they teleport? 60-70,000 came from the D.C. Fire Department

“tens of thousands” came from Fox News

Air traffic was no different than usual, hotel reservations were up about 10%, no major issues were reported on the freeways coming in and out of D.C.

If 2 million people were there, which is triple D.C.’s usual population, how did they get there and where did they stay? Did they teleport?

]]> By: Flap http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156262 Flap Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:18:28 +0000 http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156262 Guess you don't read the updated headline, post or the comments. 60-70 K is too low a figure. Some estimates now I heard mentioned on tv this morning are between 250-750K. But, really who cares? http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/09/912-do-the-numbers-matter-at-this-point.html Guess you don’t read the updated headline, post or the comments.

60-70 K is too low a figure.

Some estimates now I heard mentioned on tv this morning are between 250-750K.

But, really who cares?

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/09/912-do-the-numbers-matter-at-this-point.html

]]> By: Jonathan http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156261 Jonathan Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:09:57 +0000 http://flapsblog.com/2009/09/12/millions-protest-big-government-in-washington-d-c-today-912/#comment-156261 Um, you should change your post. There were 60-70,000, tops. Michelle Malkin has already admitted that her 2 million figure was a made-up number. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/size-matters-so-do-lies.html Um, you should change your post. There were 60-70,000, tops. Michelle Malkin has already admitted that her 2 million figure was a made-up number.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/size-matters-so-do-lies.html

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