Stanley “Tookie” Williams Watch: California Governor Schwarzenegger MULLS Clemency
In this photo provided by the Williams’ family, Stanley Tookie Williams poses in an undated file photo, at age 29 in the exercise yard at San Quentin, Calif. Prison. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Friday, Nov. 25, 2005 that he would consider granting clemency to Crips co-founder and convicted murderer Stanley Tookie Williams. (AP Photo/Courtesty of Williams.
The ASSociated Press has Schwarzenegger Mulls Clemency for Williams
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Friday that he would consider granting clemency to Crips co-founder and convicted murderer Stanley Tookie Williams.
After a private hearing with Williams’ lawyers at his Sacramento office, Schwarzenegger said he would meet again on Dec. 8 with the lawyers, Los Angeles County prosecutors and others involved.
Governor Schwarzenegger can consider ALL HE desires. But, the four murdered victims of Tookie’s violence deserve JUSTICE.
Tookie MUST suffer the ultimate penalty of our criminal justice system.
As governor, he has the authority to commute a death sentence to life without parole. He is not legally obligated to hold a public or private hearing. Schwarzenegger decides clemency requests on a “case- by-case basis,” said his spokeswoman, Margita Thompson.
Williams, 51, faces death by lethal injection on Dec. 13 for the 1979 slayings of four people _ a Whittier convenience store clerk and three people at a Pico Rivera motel a few days later. He maintains his innocence and has asked the California Supreme Court to reopen his case, alleging shoddy forensics wrongly connected him to three of the murders.
The Supreme Court has not ruled on his petition.
Los Angeles top law enforcement officers have asked Schwarzenegger to show NO MERCY for Williams.
Williams is a “coldblooded killer” who has “left his mark forever on our society by co-founding one of the most vicious, brutal gangs in existence, the Crips,” according to the statement urging Schwarzenegger to deny clemency.
The letter was from Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley, Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton and Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca.
“Williams now seeks mercy, the very mercy he so callously denied” his four victims, according to the document, designed to counter Williams’ clemency petition submitted this month.
“Despite the overwhelming nature of the evidence against him, and despite the nonexistence of any credible defense, Stanley Williams steadfastly refused to take any responsibility for the brutal, destructive and murderous acts he committed,” according to the statement. “Without such responsibility, there can be no redemption, there can be no atonement, and there should be no mercy.”
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In addition, Cooley sent a letter saying that since Williams founded the Crips, the gang “has been responsible for literally thousands of murders in Los Angeles County alone.”
Baca and Bratton also sent letters urging Schwarzenegger to show no mercy for Williams, now 51, who publicly renounced gang life nearly a decade ago.
Fellow Bear Flag League Member, Cobb has Fond Memories of Tookie
Read ALL of Michael’s excellent piece on the Crips.
I cannot wait until the founder of the Crips dies at the hands of the California justice system. This convict has actually convinced people that if you write some children’s books, that you can redeem yourself for a quadruple murder conviction. That doesn’t say much for the state of conviction these days. So long as he fries, I can handle it.
“Tookie deserves to die. Plain and simple. If he’s such a saint, let’s hurry him on his way to his everlasting reward.”
If Schwarzenegger grants Tookie clemency it will be mean a Republican Primary Election challenge for him in June …… and Arnold’s retirement from California politics.
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Patricia Plowden
I would like to start by saying that all I can do is sign the petition’s and pray. I personally can say that I understand and can relate to both side’s of this story. I want to first speak from that from the viewpoint of a victim. One of my family member’s tried to kill a person who is very dear to me over 10 years ago and also myself. We had to go through the legal system and it was a tough decision. Because how this person almost killed us they asked us what sentence we liked to be carried out. We held that person’s life in our hands we had the decision of sentencing him to life in person or death row. I have to tell you it took us about a year to get back with the prosecution to what our decision was going to be. Now I’m going to be real with you I wanted to see him die all the anger that I had inside me didn’t want him to breath another breathe. After lot’s of prayer and time to heal and I got my joy back. Now I would like to talk from that of the Accusser in some instances people find remorse for the pain that they have brought upon to someone else. I was reading some other threads and blogs regarding Mr. William’s clemency and some of the things being said are rude. All I can say is this Mr. Williams’s insist that he didn’t murder those four people back in 1979. I don’t know if he did or didn’t. There are only 8 people who know the truth and they are….THE FOUR VICTIMS….THE ACTUAL MURDERER….JESUS….THE DEVIL…What I can and will say is that by Mr. Williams being executed is not going to bring these people back to life they are going never to return until Jesus comes back to judge every man, woman, and child. Many people argue over the fact that he shouldn’t be given credit for the work he has completed because of his past decisions…I ask why not? Sometimes you have to go through some trials in order to see the purpose that God has for you when your trying to live your life your way at not the Lords way. I’m glad that Mr. Williams was locked up because maybe if he would have still been out on the streets he would have continued to be a Gang-banger but, instead he became incarcerated. He has made children’s books to steer young children who possibly were at risk to join gangs to think twice. I’m glad because to tell you the truth it was all in God’s plan he already knew that Mr. Williams would be placed in jail and that he would write books that would help inspire and change lives. He should be give clemency for that because he could have set up in his jail cell and just counted the days away and did nothing but he became inspired to help uncreate some of the madness that he help started to create…….Last but not least as I said before God already know’s the future of Mr. Williams if he is or isn’t going to be executed so I’m not going to beg nor plead for his life I will just say this whatever the outcome is the Lord is never wrong.
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Jason Hopkins
The past few weeks all you see or hear from the news media is sympathy for a convicted murderer. I have also seen “celebrities” taking up Mr. Williams fight for clemency. Not once have I seen any sympathy given to the family of the victims. I would like to hear their take on the whole situation. I doubt that it would be the same as these celebrities whose opinion apparently means more than the actual people involved.
Tabitha Hugs
Hey this is tabitha.I dont think big tookie should pay for something that happened so long ago.He has turned his life around.He has payed his debts to society already.
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Tamara
two wrongs dont make a right. I an younger then all of you guys and i know that. you should think twice.
chris burton
Now lets Think about this, A black male kills four white people and now they want to stop his execution. Everyone that is calling for this i am sure they are looking at this as a racist issue. the white man trying to get one over on the black man. but the fact is he was found guilty in a court of law by his peers. I know there wasnt a black person on the jury so it i s racist again. He was nominated for the nobel peace prize and didnt win, Was that racist as well? I say not, when all the time he has to write a few books and some people read them that does not qualify him for that honor that so many others deserve that havent killed a soul. I let the punishment fit the crime. Stop trying to do things now for him that you havent done for all the other death row people who have died before him. If he was not the founder of the crips gang then nothing would be said of this.
michael sykes
Mr.Williams i belive has done his time,his life should not be taken but spared for the changes that he has made, and the joining of the bloods and crips,who once hated and killed one another. He has wrotten books and has spoken out positive.Please give this man a chane to grow old and to continue the reversing of the gang life
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TONY
TOOKIE’S DEATH IS MEANT TO REPRESENT THE POOR STRICKEN PEOPLE OF AMERICA. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SURVIVE OR DEPEND ON OUR GOVERNMENT FOR SUPPORT. INSTEAD, THEY REALIZE AND DEPEND ON THE STREETS TO RAISE PROVIDE AND SUSTAIN A LIFE. TOO MANY TIMES HAVE I COME TO SEE THAT THOSE BROTHERS AND SISTERS DEPEND ON THOSE WAYS OF LIVING TO CATPOLT THEMSELVES INTO A FINANCIAL SECURITY, HOWEVER WE SEE BROTHERS AND SISTERS THIS IS ANOTHER PLOY BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO CREATE A DIVIDER, A SEPERATION BETWEEN OUR TWO SOCIETIES, ONE BEING RICH AND ONE BEING POOR, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, SINCE THE NOBILITIES OF KINGS AND PEASANTS NOTHING HAS CHANGED. THE RICH WILL GET RICH FROM PEOPLE WHO WORK 12 HOURS A DAY TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY A WHOLE. OUR GOVERNMENT HAS VERBALIZED INTENTIALLY SHOWN WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT, SINCE BEFORE VIETNAM, WE HAVE BEEN ON THE PURSUIT FOR THE ALL MIGHTY GREEN. OUR VIETNAM VETS ARE STILL ON THE STREETS HOMELESS WITH NO HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT SPIRITUALLY, FINANCIALLY, OR EMOTIONALLY. YET WE ARE HOLDING ON, IN MY THOUGHTS TO A FALSE PHROPHET. IT THERE IS A TIME FOR A CHANGE, IT IS NOW! WE AS A PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE A HOLD OF OUR LIVES, OUR STABILITY OUR FUTURE, BY ERATICATING THE VERY THING THAT IS PREVENTING THIS IN THE CASE OF TOOKIE WILLIAMS. IT IS CLEAR HE IS THE VICTIM OF INJUSTICE. WHETHER HE DID THE CRIME OR NOT WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? IS THE EVIDENCE IN THE CRIME OR IN THE STRUCTURE THAT TOOKIE WILLIAMS GREW UP IN? WHERE WAS OUR GOVERNMENT WHEN HE AND OTHERS NEEDED IT?
Arnold Sentuwa
Looks like the US is at it again. The concepts of jail and the death sentence are foggy once again. The logic of putting a convict behind bars is to get them reformed and also stem their crime activities in society. The concept of the death sentence is to both purnish and show an example to the rest of society. While Tookie showed that his serving a long jail term helped in getting him reformed; the legal system still requires that he pays the death sentence to set out a detterant to society on a similar crime.
If Tookie appealed his sentence within legal time, he should have been given a chance to access more and possibly a better hearing to his case. That is every man’s right without doubt. Failure to grant him that shows racism and a rotten society!
Regards, Arnold
Patman
Give me a break. Go to Ogrish.com to see photos of some of the people Tookie ruthlessly murdered.
Look at the one of the young girl with half her face blown off. So much for the real victims… you uneducated liberal douchebags.
Rot in hell, Tookie!
Alicia king
This was some trashey shit. This man been in jail all these years.He may have done alot of bad things in his lfe and so have we. So who in the hell are you’ll to take his life take a look in the mirror and think about all the black people that have been murdered by a WHITE man and nothing was done. This world is racist and will be this way until the end of time. God is the only man that will forgive us for what we do not man. If we as blacks don’t sit back and think about this thing and alot of other stuff that’s going on we are going to be in a world of trouble. So yes I do think this was wrong but if god can handle this what in the hell did you’ll have to do with it. BLACK PEOPLES WAKE UP IT IS TIME FOR US TO STAND AS ONE. He would have never in this life time had a fair hearing because this is a white man world we (BLACKS) just live in it. If known of these people was there to see what actually happened then we can’t just say this man killed anyone.
Alicia king
This is about color. What about the 4 little black girls that was burned in the church by some white men look how long it took them to even find the men that murdered them, forever. By the time they convicted some of the slum bags was dead.
Malcom Washington
Alicia King is nothing but a racist.
By the way Alicia, most of Wookies victims were yellow.
I’d like to see how you feel if a Mexican killed a few of your family members. Would you still blame the White man???
You are one ignorant person.
kevvgotti
Before I start, I would like to urge everyone to please form intelligent arguments before you click to submit. As a young Black man, I do not appreciate my race being disrespected, or fellow blacks sending messages that make us appear as the ignorant “kaffirs” most whites perceive us to be.
Over the last few weeks, I have read a barrage of media articles and other publications regarding Mr. Williams and other things. I, along with several others have had time to form OPINIONS and SPECULATIONS, biased or otherwise, about what they think happened that night in 1979. First, Mr. Williams said that to give inside information about the Crips organization would be “snitching”. Well, you have to understand that at first, the purpose of the Crips was to feel safe in their own neighborhood. A lot of what occurs now is a result of the younger guys. As far as snitching goes, in Mr. Williams’ neighborhood, they live by a strict code, and tattling, or “snitching” is a heinous crime in the Black ‘hoods, mostly punishable by death. So, why save your life to have it taken by one of your own. As good as prisoner segregation may be, I bet someone would take you out over time. NONE of you know if Mr. Williams personally killed all four people, so stop trashing the man. All you know is what you have been fed. Only those people killed, Mr. Williams, and God Almighty know what happened at those places. If he did, in fact, murder those people, then it is a slap in the face to the Black race, and his supporters; as well, it goes to show MAINSTREAM White America (that means to subtract the White people that want to be and try to act Black) how ignorant the African-American race is. If he did commit those robberies, he only made enough to get by for a few days. Maybe it was a lot of money in ’79, but today, you could make that amount of money in one paycheck at a fast-food restaurant.
However, America has gave so much focus to Mr. Williams’ fate that it has lost sight of what is going on in society. Homosexuality is gradually taking over, and that will be the beginning of the end. Sexually-transmitted disease are at an all-time high, mainly because of these queers, as well as undercover queers, who pretend to love women, but will either bend a man over, or will “drop the soap” more than some inmates do. There are countries waiting for the chance to blow us off the face of the earth. People are murdered every day, and now, the founder of an anti-social black organiztion “kills” someone and he is rushed to death, no matter how long it took to actually carry out the sentence.Many of our young men are doomed to die young because they are going to fight so you can have this very right to be fighting over such trivial matters as this.You people disrespect him, and then he is immortalized. What is he is posthumously found innocent? Uh-Oh. Not to compare him to Jesus, but you crucified him, AND THEN YOU LIFTED HIM UP. It may take a while for those of you with two-digit IQ’s to comprehend that.
In closing, you do know what happened, let the ultimate judge handle this case. Other races, do not disrespect my race anymore than they disrespect themselves daily. This is not slavery or the days of the Klan. A lot of you people claim to be Christians, but then you curse more than drunken sailors, and you seek to shed more blood than some of the gangs you despise.
tre'loc
I’m rollin 60 NHC and Cig Toocie Shouldnt ce put to death What he did was wrong but it was a man acting under desperation and under the heavy influence of drugs what he has created is an atmosphere where people can ce a part of a family and pull together to make things happen maybe sometimes violence is involved but sometimes it just has to ce to get hard points across to hard people so dont knocc tha cig homie you’ve already sentenced him to death so bacc tha fucc off!!!
MUCH LOVE CUZ, WE’LL MISS YOU BIG TOOCIE!!!
sparkle
I think thats not right to kill him because even if he did killed them and he can’t being them back to life and their familys all upset so what’s the diffences to me it seem to me that they use tookie as an example.