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3406427043 14b778aff9 o NHS Dentists Deride Pay Cut While One In Three UK Patients Cannot Find One

Something is definitely wrong in the United Kingdom and their nationalized/socialized dental health care system called the National Health Service Dentistry.

First, the dentists are complaining about a pay cut.

The national leaders of the UK’s general dental practitioners described as ‘derisory’ the 0.21 per cent increase in earnings awarded by the government following today’s recommendation of the
Review Body on Doctors’ and Dentists’ Pay. The Retail Prices Index is currently at 3.2 per cent-anything less than this is effectively a pay cut.

Chairman of the DPA Jim Donaldson BDS said “The DDRB seems to assume no responsibility for diffic
lties in NHS access. Year after year we have tried to explain to them that dentists are motivated to either join or leave the NHS based on comparison with similarly skilled groups and also the disparity in terms and conditions between the public and priv
te sectors. Pay is a vital element of the NHS package, yet year after year it is cut in real terms.

“The new contract is sufficiently unattractive and uncertain without this further clear signal that financial penalties are to be imposed year
fter year by below-inflation awards”.

President of the DPA Brian Levy BDS said “With the RPI at 3.2 per cent, this recommendation can only be viewed by NHS dentists as another pay cut. This will further reduce our members’ ability to accept an
treat NHS patients”.

Yet, UK patients are having probelms with access to patient care and affording it even should they find
a NHS dentist who will treat them.

Despite Government promises to improve access, research reveals that 35 per cent of adults are struggling to get the dental care they need – up from 23 per cent the year before.

In some
parts of the country, half the adults said they cannot see an NHS dentist – forcing them to go without treatment or to pay privately.

The credit crunch is also having an impact on the nation’s dental health.

The poll revealed that a
most 50 per cent of the population say they are put off going to the dentist over fears of the cost. Last year the figure was one in five.

Abby Bowman from Simplyhealth, the private dental provider which carried out the survey, said: ‘The NHS
ental contracts introduced three years ago were supposed to give more people access to dentists, but as our research shows this is only getting worse.’

So, the UK nationalized system has the worst of both worlds – cost and availability.
But, isn’t this the lesson of a price fixed system taught in basic economics?

And, the UK politicians, where do they stand while their own people are resorting to extracting their own teeth while continuing to pay high taxes for services they
annot obtain?

Well, Prime Minister Gordon Brown who opposes private medicine says – Let Them Eat Cake.

CHANCELLOR Gordon Bro
n came under fire last night after it was revealed he has been using a £100-an-hour private dentist. Mr Brown, a fierce opponent of private medicine, has been a regular patient at the exclusive London Centre for Cosmetic Dentistry.

It boasts a string of celebrity clients, including Oasis singer Liam Gallagher.

Just last week, as an estimated two million Britons continued to struggle without access to an NHS dentist, the Chancellor attended the clinic to undergo root canal treatment. Treated by the practice owner, Mervyn Drurian, he had two half-hour sessions t
clean out a dead nerve and cap one of his teeth.

The bill is expected to run into hundreds of pounds, once laboratory fees are added.

Astonishingly a spokesman for the Chancellor defended his decision to go private by blaming the current lack of NHS dentists available.

A spokesman said: “Using a private dentist is not the same as using a private doctor.

“Gordon is no different to the large number of people who have found themselves without an NHS dentist because he did not visit one regularly.

“If you have a toothache, you have to find a dentist quickly and to do that you have to go private. It is not like arranging an appointment with your GP. ”

Astonishingly?

No, not really.

The POLS know where to go for the best treatment and the peasants in their elite, socialized system can just “PISS OFF.”


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Elizabeth Green: ‘The teeth got more and more painful and one evening I couldn’t take it any longer’

Another NHS Dentistry horror story in the UK.

Elizabeth Green, 76, telephoned 12 dental surgeries complaining of severe toothache, but was told every time that they were not accepting new NHS patients.

Finally, her two front teeth became so painful that she was forced to extract them herself.

The number of people carrying out DIY dentistry is thought to be on the rise, due to the dwindling availability of NHS dental treatment.

Mrs Green, a former chef, said it was made plain to her that treatment would be available only if she was willing to pay for it.

“I feel so angry,” she told the Daily Mail. “I’ve worked all my life and paid taxes and then when I need help I can’t get it.”

Obviously, market forces in Britain are privatizing the system while the government clings to a socialized model of dental delivery that has failed.

Maybe more stories will shame the government in working with British dentistry to facilitate a more hasty transition to private dental health care delivery while providing for the truly needy and disabled.

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What a shocker?

British dentistry where the free market is constrained by the National Health Service is also the most expensive.

The United Kingdom should transition away from their government sponsored program (NHS) to a wholly private one while providing for the indigent, poor and infirm via government supported vouchers.

Flap wonders if some government official will suggest the government pay for airplane tickets for Brits to head over to Poland?


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William Kelly, 43, extracted part of his own tooth, leaving a black stump. He plans to pull one more.

Dr. John Crippen from the NHS Blog Doctor has returned to the blogosphere.

Flap enjoys reading about this physician’s trials and tribulations while he fights the absurdity of the National Health Service in the United Kingdom.

If Americans want an insight as to what HILLARY CARE or ARNOLD CARE would provide the United States, read Dr. Crippen’s blog.


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dentuk07teeth1902web1gp NHS Dentistry Watch: English Pulling Own Teeth as NHS System Collapses

William Kelly, 43, extracted part of his own tooth, leaving a black stump. He plans to pull one more.

English ‘pull own teeth’ as dental service decays

Falling numbers of state dentists in England has led to some people taking extreme measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released Monday.

Falling numbers of state dentists in England has led to some people taking extreme measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released Monday.

Others have used superglue to stick crowns back on, rather than stumping up for private treatment, said the study. One person spoke of carrying out 14 separate extractions on himself with pliers.

More typically, a lack of publicly-funded dentists means that growing numbers go private: 78 percent of private patients said they were there because they could not find a National Health Service (NHS) dentist, and only 15 percent because of better treatment.

“This is an uncomfortable read for all of us, and poses serious questions to politicians from patients,” said Sharon Grant of the Commission for Patient and Public Involvement in Health.

Overall, six percent of patients had resorted to self-treatment, according to the survey of 5,000 patients in England, which found that one in five had decided against dental work because of the cost.

The British NHS Dental Health Care System is clearly not working. Flap has been documenting the inevitable collapse of this “SOCIALIZED” system for years now.

With only a little more than half of UK dentists participating in the NHS, the government must facilitate changes unless they prefer stories like this.

Hints to the Labor Government:

1. Eliminate the NHS dental system gradually

2. Allow dentistry to be a private system like in Australia, Canada or South Africa

3. Establish a government paid voucher system which is redeemable at ANY dental office in the UK for the truly poor, disabled or infirm.

4. Cut taxes for the dentists and patients that pay for the abysmal NHS dental system.

5. Convene a panel of dental economists to privatize the UK dental care industry, including dental education.

Stay tuned………

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Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi in a Muslim head scarf

One of the side benefits of having the government controlling health care.

A muslim dentist made a woman wear Islamic dress as the price of accepting her as an NHS patient, it is alleged.

Omer Butt is said to have told the patient that unless she wore a headscarf she would have to find another practice.

But, these UK government MORONS are only two years late in prosecuting this NHS dentist.

Flap can hardly wait for Hillary Care 2.0.

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The Times: NHS dentists who missed targets may be forced to pay back millions

The impact will be even greater on dental care as incomes will be reduced, sparking fears more dentists will leave the NHS

Dentists may have to pay back millions of pounds to the NHS because they have failed to reach their targets in the first year of a new contract.

Some dentists face repayments of tens of thousands of pounds, and in a few cases more than £100,000. The impact on dental practices will be even greater because their income next year will be reduced, and it is feared that the problems may lead to even more dentists leaving the NHS.

The problem is the latest to hit the troubled NHS dental contract, which rewards dentists for the “units of dental activity” (UDAs) that they complete. Many dentists – nobody yet knows how many – have failed to achieve the UDA targets that were set by primary care trusts, and for which they have already been paid.

One dentist said that the contract had turned him into “a UDA factory”, working flat-out to achieve the targets. Others said that the only way to reach the targets was to take on quick jobs such as extracting teeth, rather than root-canal surgery to save the tooth, which earns the same UDA score.

Good Grief.

The NHS Dental system in the United Kingdom has gotten much worse not better with increased government scrutiny and involvement. Should this be surprising?

If my colleagues in Britain want to fix their system, they must privaitize their dentistry health care delivery system. After all, even other former Commonwealth countries, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia have primarily private dental systems.

Or they could model their system on the American private system.

What the NHS provides their dentists and patients today is the worst of all worlds: a government run system with bureucratic HMO targeted contracts where the provider is at financial risk.

Why would any dentist wish to participate in this system? Why should the individual dentist be held financially responsible for the health and health care decisions of individual citizens?

As my fellow blogger, Dr. John Crippen says:

“The overwhelming majority of British dentists are decent, caring, and hard-working.”

Government targets have pushed them towards working unethically. Towards working unprofessionally. They will not do that. The Times quotes a dentist who says:

“I a patient comes in and needs more than two crowns, it costs me more to do the work than I get paid. So there is a temptation not to do the things that need doing. There is a huge potential for supervised neglect.”

This government has done it to the doctors; it has done it to the teachers (see : “Life after the job from hell” ); it has done it to the lawyers (see : “Half the Cost of a no frills meal“); so I suppose it is only fair that it does it to the dentists.

But ask yourself this. How many of these NHS dentists, faced with financial disaster, will still be working in the NHS next year?

Answers on a post-card to Patricia Hewitt.

And what adds insult to injury are the high tax rates in the United Kingdom to pay for these “government” benefits.

Perhaps the British Dental Association should consider an orderly phase into a private system so as to minimize a dislocation of patient care. If not, the individual dentists will chose privitization with their feet by walking out of the NHS entirely.

The Stats:

50% Amount of average dentist’s income from private work. Fifteen years ago it was 6%

20,887 Number of NHS dentists at end of 2006. On March 31 last year it was 21,111

£100,000 Estimated income of one in ten dentists before the new contract system

46% Percentage of adults registered with a dentist (children 62.9%)

Let’s look at some of the comments:

From the Times:

Oh dear!

Means my local NHS Dentist might have to get rid of one of their 2 brand new Porsche Boxters and might have to downgrade the new Range Rover Sport as well.

Hard times ahead indeed.

Bry Barnes, Somerset, Uk

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Another “Target debacle” ruled over by this government! “Targets, targets, targets” should have been Blair’s sound-bite when he came to government, not “education, education, education”. This is why the NHS is not making headway when it has money pouring into it – there is a whole industry in government (and the NHS etc) just to set and measure targets.

B. Cox, cambridge, uk

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GPs met the targets set by their new contract and saw their pay being cut in the form of a reduction in pension.
If dentists had hit their targets one wonders if the government would have clawed back the pay in other ways on the grounds of ‘affordability’

john phillips, edinburgh

From NHS Blog Doctor:

Couldn’t have said it better myself.
And to add insult to injury we now have to throw away a large number of precision instruments after one use; which isn’t necessarily a problem, except that the government isn’t giving the dentists any more money to pay for this non-evidence based dictat.
student dentist | 30.04.07 – 5:15 pm | #

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The Guardian today hints that Gordon Brown will give the NHS political independence in his first 100 days as PM rather like he did with the Bank of England in his few few days as chancellor. Given the incredible amount of incompetence the Government has shown over its management of the NHS, is it high time this happened or just another smoke screen? You guys who actually work in the NHS would know best…

I would really like to hear your views on this Dr Crippen. You describe the NHS as bowing to government control freakery – is this where the heart of the NHS’s problems really lie?

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JG | Homepage | 30.04.07 – 5:58 pm | #

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Dr. Crippen:

Who are you (or anyone else) to say the Harley Street docs, or the dentists, SHOULD be in their NHS clinics?

The mentality that physicians (and dentists) are somehow “owned” by the people, hence by the government……almost a public utility……that’s how we got into this trouble in the first place.

I say “we” ’cause we’re not that much different in the USA.

Given what you describe of the NHS, I daresay the dentists are behaving rationally.
arf | 30.04.07 – 6:41 pm | #

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What a picture. At least he won’t eat swans again.
dearieme | 30.04.07 – 7:08 pm | #

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ideological preferences aside, arf, these dentists agreed a contract and have been paid (in advance) for work they have not done. The real unfairness here is that private surgical clinics paid by the government on the same basis (per units) have been paid even though they did not do all the contracted work (I assume the contracts differed, still, it is unfair).
jayann | 30.04.07 – 8:10 pm | #

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Ah, different story, of course.

We had a similar problem with Medicaid dentistry in our area. Medicaid is a state/government program for the poor.

They got a sum of money from the government to provide dental services to a population of indigent people in our area. Yet I was repeatedly being called after-hours for pain medicines, etc., for dental pain. It’s a problem, as most people calling in that scenario are really seeking narcotics (in my area at least).

One time I got so fed up with it. Someone called seeking analgesics, and the person had just had dental work a few days earlier. “Why aren’t you calling your dentist?”. “The answering service says there’s no one on-call”. So they call me, ’cause I answer the phone. Sometimes I think I’m the only one who answers the phone.

I took the person’s name, all the relevant numbers, called the dental service myself. What do you know, the person was right. No one was listed as being on-call for emergencies, contrary to their contract. They took the money and didn’t provide the service.

And to add insult to injury, the work we physicians did….work the dentists were supposed to do but didn’t…..that work came out of our own Medicaid budget, so we look that more spendthrft in our services, and the dentists look that much more “efficient”.

I took that story, named names, and made a big stink.

They cleaned up their act, at least for the time being.
arf | 30.04.07 – 8:25 pm | #

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John, you forgot one profession that has also been stuffed by the government and that is the profession of Nursing.
doctorno | 30.04.07 – 8:58 pm | #

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In my profession’s defence, Most dentists work an on call rota between a few practices in the area so real emergencies shouldn’t slip through the net.
Some practice’s haven’t met their targets, from what i understand this is often because they are in an area of high need. i.e. people who require 12 fillings, three molar root canals and a course of perio treatment. This could take up to 10 hours, for which the dentist ‘earns’ 3 UDA’s and as an example my trainer next year has a target of 11’000. There are also incidences of the work completed in the ‘test period’ being overestimated by as much as 10%.
Of course the other side of the story (and the one i hear more often) is dentists meeting their targets early, applying for more funding to meet the needs of the population from the PCT and being refused. In this instance the only option is to close the practice until the new financial year.
I really believe in the NHS but i’m not sure how i will manage to work in this system and provide the treatment i want to.
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