Ron Paul Watch: The November 5 Creep Show
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Allah has the poop on the November 5 Guy Fawkes CREEP SHOW fundraising event for Ron Paul’s fledgling Presidential campaign.
Does anyone know if America’s Greatest Patriot has formally distanced himself yet from any of the myriad kooks and cretins that have attached themselves to his hull? In this week alone we’ve been treated to a report that he’s the candidate of choice for Michigan militia types, an ad cooked up by supporters to reassure voters that the foul hand of Israel holds no sway over him, and now this grassroots promo for a Paul event on November 5 — Guy Fawkes Day, in memory of the man who tried to blow up Parliament — with imagery borrowed from “V for Vendetta,†a violent quasi-anarchist revenge fantasy which creeped Ace out sufficiently to write two separate critiques of how dangerously incendiary it was.
The media’s starting to chatter about the peculiarities of some of the Bircheresque Crank’s more crankish, bircheresque supporters, but they’re always quick to qualify it by noting that Paul hasn’t sought their endorsement — which isn’t true, incidentally, in the case of Truthers, whom he’s deliberately wooed by appearing on Alex Jones’s radio show.
Time for Representative Ron Paul to either publicly embrace the LEFTIST and RIGHT WING nutbars that are supporting him or repudiate their involvement in his campaign.
NZ Bear had these photos from (CORRECTED) outside the FRC’s Washington Values Voter today International ANSWER anti-war rally in D.C. back in September:
And this would be the nice Ron Paul crazies who joined with their Socialist brothers at the protest:
So, will Ron Paul repudiate the CREEP SHOW or embrace it?
Stay tuned……..
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chris lawton
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chris lawton
Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist.
Ron has never voted to raise taxes.
Ron has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
Ron has never voted for the Iraq War.
Ron has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
Ron has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
Ron has never voted to raise congressional pay.
Ron has never taken a government-paid junket.
Ron voted against the Patriot Act.
Ron votes against regulating the Internet.
Ron voted against NAFTA and CAFTA.
Ron votes against the United Nations.
Ron votes against the welfare state.
Ron votes against reinstating a military draft.
Ron votes to preserve the constitution.
Ron votes to cut government spending.
Ron votes to lower healthcare costs.
Ron votes to end the war on drugs.
Ron votes to protect civil liberties.
Ron votes to secure our borders with real immigration reform
Flap
Here comes the Ron Paul spam…..
Gregor Morrill
I was curious why Ron Paul supporters would be protesting outside an event where he was speaking, so I skimmed through the post you linked to and read that it was an anti-war rally back in September in DC, not outside the Values Voters event. Not sure how you got that mixed up.
And I realize it’s Erick Erickson’s caption, not yours, but it’s laughable to insinuate because two groups protest the war together, they’re therefore “brothers” and are aligned on everything ideologically. Yes, those Ron Paul supporters are so socialist! Always asking for universal health care and other government handouts.
Flap
Thanks Gregor I corrected the piece.
If they are not protesting together then Ron Paul should repudiate them and tell them to get lost.
Right?
What about the other groups to which Ron Paul panders?
Gregor Morrill
You’re welcome.
Why would Ron Paul – who is opposed to the Iraq War – repudiate some supporters for protesting the Iraq War??
They clearly are protesting “together” (in the sense of physical proximity). I didn’t say otherwise. Should Ron Paul repudiate every little ignorant assumption of ideological proximity – particularly when there is blatant evidence to the contrary of those assumptions? Indeed, Mr. Erickson makes it clear in his wording that he is familiar with and agrees with Ron Paul’s fundamental ideals, so clearly the “socialist brothers” caption was only a poor smear attempt.
Flap
Ron Paul should repudiate the NUTS who are supporting his campaign – not just the anti-Iraq War Socialist Party types.
Check out the links in the piece above. Some pretty unsavory folks.
Don’t you think?
Gregor Morrill
I should clarify: The only name I found on that blog post was “See also: Erick Erickson” and I presumed that was the author. Looks like I was wrong and it’s just the pseudonym “N.Z. Bear” as you used, so references to Mr. Erickson can be replaced with that.
Flap
NZ Bear is correct.
You know who he is, right?
Gregor Morrill
I’m an anti-Iraq War, non Socialst Party member (just FYI. There’s quite a diversity in the anti-war crowd). 🙂
Four paragraphs into the “Michigan militia types” link I find:
But I presume that’s not enough.
Are you trying the guilt by association logical fallacy, here?
Gregor Morrill
No, I’m not aware who he is off-hand. I don’t read a lot of what I guess would be classified “right wing” blogs usually, but I’m branching out a bit. 🙂
Flap
Ron Paul should repudiate these NUTTER groups and return their contributions.
If it quacks like a duck…….
Moreover, he has pandered to them.
Flap
NZ Bear is renown in the blogosphere.
Guess you don’t read the blogs so much.
Google his name.
Gregor Morrill
Sorry, what again has Ron Paul said (“quacked”) that makes you think he’s aligned with these groups?
And how has he pandered to them?
You have this weird tendency to ignore what I say, or just restate it. What’s up with that?
I just said I don’t read what would be classified as “right wing” blogs usually. Google was unhelpful, only returned his site in the top 5 results. I know what his site is, that doesn’t tell me who he is. Anyway, congrats to him for being renown.
Flap
g-Love, reread Allah’s piece at Hot Air and the piece at Huffpo. Your questions will be answered.
You didn’t look very hard. I guess you must be busy with school. Try this link which I found on Google.
Update: Check out the nice Ron Paul ad asking for money at the Storm Front White Nationalist Community Discussion Board site here
Update #2:
Here is a Ron Paul thread at Storm Front.
Ron Paul should repudiate this site, cancel his ad and return any and all contributions. These folks are white racist supremecist nutbars.
Gregor Morrill
(I wrote and posted this comment over the weekend; apparently it was flagged as spam and never actually posted; reposting now)
I just reread them. Neither contain something Ron Paul has said indicating he has aligned himself with these groups. Neither indicate how he has pandered to them either. Why can’t you answer the simple questions yourself?
The Hot Air piece alleges that he’s “deliberately wooed” 9/11 Truthers by appearing on Alex Jones, which is a claim that wasn’t really backed up. He has addressed this on at least two occasions that I’m aware of.
John Gibson also had him on his radio show and asked basically the same question, receiving a similar response – though the interview was pretty bad overall because Mr. Gibson couldn’t stop talking over him or putting words in his mouth. (audio)
My profile is out of date, but thanks for reading it. 🙂 I’m finished with school. Anyway, now I know who NZ Bear is. Thanks.
Cameron
Ron Paul panders to NO ONE. You were obviously misinformed. Ron Paul is so consistent, it will make your head spin. Ron Paul give the same message no matter where he is, no matter who is in attendance, whether anyone else is on his side or not. He is not afraid to stand alone. He is an American hero.
If you support Ron Paul, join the rest of us and donate any money you can on November 5th, so that it will never be forgot.
V is for Victory. Ronald Earnest Paul.
Hotchney
Socialists? Yeah right. We Ron Paul supporters won’t stand for YOUR socialist policies. All we’re trying to do is get a capitalist free-market lover in the white house. Yes, some supporters are kooky. Most are not. You’re going to be in for one hell of a surprise when the primaries roll around.
Flap
MY socialist policies.
And what might those be?
What surprise might that be? Ron Paul will NOT be the GOP nominee.
Cameron
Ron Paul will definitely be the GOP nominee. You haven’t been paying attention. No one else has been making a steady climb upwards in donations and volunteers.
Cascadian
You mean the Theocon Neocon creeps that have been speaking for the Party and enabling it’s misbegotten path for the last Seven? I think he repudiates you quite well. You have not been responsible stewards. You have failed to provide oversight for your own. You have lead the party to ruin. Your time is over.
Flap
Care to be specific.
You sound like someone from the LEFT Daily Kos.
I doubt you are a registered GOP voter.
Cascadian
GOP PCO
Mike
You fascists are hilarious. Anyone wants to stop murdering muslims and sending young Americans to fight senseless wars is a “socialist crazy”, lol.
Paul Eres
Flap is a well known supporter of Dick Cheney. Please ignore him and try to convince people who never heard of Paul to vote for him, not people who have months of history smearing him, it makes a lot more sense, you’re wasting your valuable time this way. Join a MeetUp group or something.
Gregor Morrill
There was a reply comment I posted here over the weekend, the message said it was flagged for moderation. Just FYI in case that slipped through the cracks. It contained some links, but wasn’t spam.
Flap
As you know I don’t moderate comments but the spam filter I have is strong. I receive hundreds of spam comments and trackbacks a day. Even then some get through and have to be manually deleted = a pain in the a__.
I do enforce my comments policy though.
Gregor Morrill
Oh, well good thing I’d composed it in my text editor. I just tried to repost it and it went through this time. It’s above.
H. D. Schroeder
He had me at, “The Constitution…”
Valerie
The November 5th RP fundraiser is loosely tied to V for Vendetta which was based on a graphic novel by Alan Moore which is loosely based on the history of Guy Fawkes’s attempt to destroy Parliament in the 1600’s. The novel is about a revolt against an evil government by its people. In typical American movie fashion, the movie version and its main character are violent, but that’s what sells, right? Violence?
I’m going to donate $100 to the RP campaign in peaceful protest of my authoritarian leaders on November 5th. They don’t listen to anything but money, and RP doesn’t take corporate money so he’s at a disadvantage. I and 7,500 (today with 2 weeks left) intend to help level the playing field.
wolfsheim
Did this guy ever even watch V for Vendetta? Or get any clue at all as to why it was made, what the creator’s story is all about? I guess 1984 is just a farcical sci-fi story in his imagination. But then its his obvious intention to NOT make any valid reference to the movie V because it might actually justify its connection to the Ron Paul supporters and the current events of today. Calling it “a violent quasi-anarchist revenge fantasy” is like calling Orwell’s prophetic work, a spooky dysotopic SF book. Perhaps “AllahPundit”, when he grows up he’ll be able to read adult books and be able to understand them a bit besides just looking for the pop-up pictures.
sharpinchitown
Flap, Ron Paul is good folk. Period. He doesn’t believe in indiscriminate killing, whether it’s abortion or unjust war. What is wrong with that?
If socialists and anarchists and skinheads and whomever else want to support Ron Paul, SO WHAT? He’s not going to pander to anyone and he’s not going to dismiss anyone because of their lifestyle choices; he’s not exclusionary.
If they all agree on the war stance great – why is that an issue? He’s bringing people together that wouldn’t normally give each other the time of day. To me that makes him a uniter instead of a divider, unlike everyone else.
As for calling someone who doesn’t agree with your philosophy a kook? That’s as childish as saying those who don’t wear your favorite color a bunch of nut cases – it’s illogical and seriously might point to the need for some ego work.
Flap
Sorry but KKK Grand Wizards and Neo-Nazis are not a lifestyle choice.
These people are NUTS as is Ron Paul.
His political beliefs are NOT mainstream and are rants of lunatic or a KOOK.
Nut case is a good phrase to define him.