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Barack Obama Watch: The Problem is Still Hillary

July 5, 2008 /
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Barack Obama continues to struggle with supporters of Hillary Clinton for President according to a new CNN poll.

One week after Sen. Hillary Clinton made a public show of unity with Sen. Barack Obama, a new survey suggests supporters of the New York senator are increasingly less likely to follow her lead.

A growing number of Clinton supporters polled say they may stay home in November instead of casting their ballot for Obama, an indication the party has yet to coalesce around the Illinois senator four weeks after the most prolonged and at times divisive primary race in modern American history came to a close.

According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Friday, the number of Clinton supporters who plan to defect to Republican Sen. John McCain’s camp is down from one month ago, but — in what could be an ominous sign for Obama as he seeks to unify the party — the number of them who say they plan to vote for Obama is also down, and a growing number say they may not vote at all.

In a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey completed in early June before the New York senator ended her White House bid, 60 percent of Clinton backers polled said they planned on voting for Obama. In the latest poll, that number has dropped to 54 percent.

In early June, 22 percent of Clinton supporters polled said they would not vote at all if Obama were the party’s nominee, now close to a third say they will stay home.

And, as Obama veers his candidacy toward the center of the political spectrum like his Iraq policy flip-flop, public financing change and FISA reversal, he faces a challenge from Ralph Nader on the far left.

Will this poling data force Obama to name Hillary as Vice President?

Or, is this the type of data that will reinforce a Hillary decision to stay off the ticket, let Obama lose and then run again after a four year John McCain term of office?

Probably the latter.

Watch the Clinton cabal push Howard Dean and Team Obama to allow her a speaking role at the Denver convention. Will Obama let her speak in the stadium?

Stay tuned……..

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15 Comments

  • Jody

    July 5, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Obama suck
    I voted for hillary , I think obama sucks he no more than an empty suite,, who is flip flopping all over the news, the man is totally worthless, I will never vote for barack obama but I will not throw away my vote,,, I will vote for McCain,,, McCain will be in office only for 4 years, it can not get worse than bush, McCain can not make the war worse congress won’t let him, But if Obama gets elected Obama will make this country worse,
    with his flip flopping, and by the end of obama 3rd year if he was president, not even a quarter of the troops will be him, he going to keep them their

  • Ling

    July 5, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Obama definitely has a Hillary problem in specific states – PA, OH and even CA. He’ll still take California, but if Arnold and McCain really put some effort into it, they could make Obama sweat a bit.

  • Jack

    July 6, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    See, nobody took Hillary seriously when she said despite all her drama all her supporters would rally around Obama when he became the nominee.

    She has convinced her supporters she has been a constant victim and Obama is the nominee solely as a result of sexism towards her, that he someone changed the rules in the middle of the game with Florida and Michigan (when really she did), oh and of course that she was someone the President from 1992 to 2000. Hillary has produced NO RECORDS of what she did in the white house, we don’t know what meetings she was involved in, what crisis she handled, what problems she managed, what decisions she made but are supposed to vote for her for what she was ASSOCIATED with with this assumption she did something.

    She has no policy background, there is no policy at ANY level that she wrote, look it up if you want…she has no management or executive experience.

    When she talks about her experience we should ask if she learned anything as a result of it. She has the experience of being part of two campaigns her husband was running in for President, as well as his campaigns for Governor of Arkansas yet she had a very poorly managed campaign.

    She assumed winning was a given and shifted to “general election mode” before the Iowa caucus assuming she’d have won the primary in a month.

    Half of her own supporters say they are voting for her to get Bill back in the White House so this is hardly a gender achievement.

    Her campaign had no integrity and when called on it she said this was sexist media because there were more negative stories about her than Barack. She had a 100% negative campaign. A “throw everything including the kitchen sink” at Obama means there are no standards for what she will do.

    Her justfication was that the Repubicans will do the same thing so she might as well make these false attacks that divide the Democratic Party.

    Hillary showed she was willing to take the party down with her if she lost and looks like she might get her wish. She is morally corrupt, a liar and manipulative.

    She only became Senator for New York because of a backroom deal for her husband to pardon this Puerto Rican guy that murdered 27 people and raped 9….this guy wasn’t repentant or asking to be released but she needed the Puerto Rican vote. This is all documented.

    She took in $100,000 in bribes while she was the wife of the governor of Arkansas and it is CLEARLY documented.

    Nixon’s end was the break in at the Watergate hotel. What happened with Hillary…she had Patti Solis-Doyle, her personal scheduler who became her campaign manager for this campaign break into the office of Vince Foster and steal financial documents related to the investigation on the Clintons by federal prosecutors. Problem was the same morning Doyle and Secret Service testified she broke in Foster happened to be committing suicide at home.

    Nixon was impeached for this, and Spiro Agnew, Nixon’s VP had to resign for taking a bribe of 1/10th what Hillary took.

    There has never been a Presidential election where there was this much evidence of one of the candidates being this unethical and they were somehow still assumed to win. She has no respect for the law, the constitution, or the truth.

    She has said “I don’t remember” over 100 ties related to whether she did actions that constituted federal felonies.

    She also is really not a leader of womens rights. She was the one that was in charge of figuring out how to blackmail and destroy the reputations of all the women that had claims against Bill Clinton. This is a guy that had 6 women charge him with rape WHILE IN COLLEGE.

    She thinks after 8 years we will forget about this.

    Hillary Clinton also broke the cardinal rule and endorsed McCain over Obama dozens of times in the primary. She set as a goal of her campaign to get as many of her supporters as possible to support McCain over Obama to push down his numbers.

    This woman would be worse then Nixon. Nixon had 1/100th as many skeletons in his closet as her.

    She institutionalized corruption.

    Hillary supporters PLEASE tell me ONE BILL of Hillary’s that passed? A single one..She has NO POLICY BACKGROUND and NO MANAGEMENT/EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE which is an understatement if you look how mismanaged her campaign was…they couldn’t keep track of money, had constant problems and turn over.

    Tell me what she did in the White House. The only policy bill she presented was Health Care Reform…..by her standard she had 3X more EXPERIENCE than Obama when she tried Health Care Reform but still failed…so the experience didn’t help her there…she had 4X the expeirence when she supported us going to war in Iraq and said we should have complete faith and trust in Bush….experience didn’t help there…..she had the experience of being involved in two presidential campaigns for her husband and didn’t learn from it on this one…..what has her experience gotten her..

    There is a reason why people just don’t trust her and it is not because she is a woman. The reason why so many voters DEM and REP think Obama is a muslim is because of e-mails SHE PUT OUT…The reason for the tension between Obama and the Jewish community is because of flat out false statements made by Hillary’s campaign…The reason why so many of her supporters say they will stay home is because of tension SHE injected…..

    Hillary was NOT a victim with FL and MI. She said in 14 different TV and Radio interviews she supported those elections not counting, then when she needed those votes reversed it AFTER the elections. She also committed she wouldn’t campaign there, which she did, that she wouldn’t visit the state which she did, that she wouldn’t contest the elections not counting which she did, that she would take her name off the ballot in MI that she put it back on at the last minute….

    So Hillary and Bill were co-President from 1992-2000. If that was the case can you tell me one crises she managed? law she past? decision she made? meetings she was in or led? How can we judge what she did then? that’s really not fair to the voters to close all these records.

    She is running on the ASSUMPTION of what she did and because of what she was ASSOCIATED with….so she wants us to have this IMPRESSION but not an UNDERSTANDING.

    The two years she was involved in policy the policies were such a failure that at the end of the two years the Republican Revolution began.

    Kennedy’s biggest achievements were to get teh House and Senate Democrat…lasted 42 years…until Hillary’s Health Care Reform bill failed so big it created the Republican Revolution…it was the most cited reason why the House and Senate switched.

    She did everything behind closed doors…had a committee of people loyal to her but no undersatnding of health care..she even alieanted democrats refusing to meet with them or involve them in it….This was probably the most embarassing effort ever to start a major government program.

    We paid the price. Look how many senate, congressional and governor seats were lost.

    She also got into the Senate as a result of the two biggest cases of campaign finance fraud in Senate History. She is actually on trial a week after the general election and is 1000% guilty….they have all her meetings on video tape.

    She is not running on her record in the Senate, we all know that…what she did as first lady is sealed we can’t see it…so why should we vote for her.

    She was not even popular as first lady..majority of americans hated her….now she tries to reinvent herself, this is embarassing.

    She does not have the temperment to be President it is VERY VERY CLEAR..she does not have the leadership or executive skills that is VERY VERY clear…She is running on her husbands record and legacy which is flat out EMBARASSING.

    And Hillary has NOT been vetted…Obama did not bring up her senate record, lack of any bills past, didn’t push that we have no record of her accomplishments as first lady, that she is on trial the week after the general election, that Bill who her supporters want to be co-President is not the man he was 8 years ago as a result of his health problems and really is not fit to regain that role, all the crooked things she did have not been vetted, there will just be more and more dirt on her and it will all be true. If she is so strong on reforming health care why has she taken more money from HMO’s and drug companies than any senator in US history?

    This is a woman who didn’t even have ANY PLANNING for the elections after Super Tuesday, she was so confident she would have won by then….she had NO DEFAULT PLAN…..

    She also was WITH MCCAIN on Meet the press, 7 months before declaring her candidacy saying she supported us being in Iraq for 100 years as we have been in Korea for 50 years…….She supported the War as long as it was popular.

    She has never been able to take a tough position and sell it to the American people because we don’t trust her.

    Look at how she handled the Bosnia issue….she tried to take down everyone else before after months admitting that she lied. She attacked and tried to destroy everyone else….she said the press were just being sexist…her daughter was next to her in that speech and was ON THE PLANE so she is teaching her daughter that is fine. She is completely delusional. She will say or so anything.

    Even after Obama got 2118 delegates she didn’t endorse him…continued to tell her supporters he didn’t win fairly, she was the victim of sexism, that he didn’t win this popular vote number she talks about…..she made her supporters think the press was sexist when they said that the race was over months before. Her strategy was to try and scare you into voting for her, was very sad.

    This is a woman that married Bill to be President…they had this agreement that they would both serve two terms over 20 some years, him first than her second……..it was a purely political marriage and she put up with being mistreated for her political aspirations..How is this a role model to young women.

    If Hillary had a 1% chance of still gettign the nomination, she would take it to the convention and take down the party and we all know it.

  • josgirl

    July 6, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Jack, do you really think anybody read all that drivel?
    Obama never got to 2118 in pledged delegates.
    The rest of your points are meaningless in light of that fact.

  • Len kay

    July 6, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    I was going to vote for Senator Hillary Clinton until she started being dramatic and falsifying her experience in Bosnia. She said she had to dodge bullets and made it sound like she was in grave danger. This was an outright lie! She did a diservice to the military who provided such excellent protection while she tried to interfer with the President’s business. No chronic liar Hillary for me! The Clintons will do anything to win an election. Ethical or not! WAKE UP FELLOW DEMOCRATS or she will continue to use and abuse us!

  • Impartial Observer

    July 6, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    “Jack, do you really think anybody read all that drivel?”

    As a matter of fact, josgirl, I did, and it just confirms what I’ve always thought about Senator Clinton.

  • Al from NJ

    July 7, 2008 at 2:50 am

    The reason Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don’t know all about him.

    They don’t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.

    They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger as his compass in life

    They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist.

    They don’t want to defend Black Liberation theology.

    They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.

    They don’t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.

    They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.

    They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support

    They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.

    They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices

    They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)

    They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and steals Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.

    They don’t want a candidate that feels sorry to leave a church that is anti American and that preaches hatred and racial views that are cruel and nasty.

    They don’t want a candidate that is inexperienced.

    They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.

    They don’t want a candidate that has a “non practicing” Muslim father, but avoids the entire discussion of his father.

    They don’t’ want a candidate that won’t debate

    They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘Obama girl and her behind in their face”

    They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisiana Black Caucus meeting

    They don’t want a candidate that has done nothing for humanity except talk about it.

    They don’t’ want a candidate that has poor judgment.

    They don’t’ want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama

    He scares them to death.
    He is embarrassing.
    He is unelectable.

  • Al from NJ

    July 7, 2008 at 2:55 am

    Obama has fixed this race by deception to Americans.
    He has lied about his background and his connections with radical, anti American, anti semitic leaders and pastors until just a few months ago.

    He has hidden his relationship with his mentor Reverend Wright, his idol “Nation of Islam’ leader Louis Farrakhan, Syrian Criminal and coworker, Anton Rezko and his belief system of Black Liberation Theology since the beginning of the primary.

    Many Americans and all of my community have changed their minds about this man and will not vote for him in the general election because of this lies and deception

    This whole election process, especially not seating Florida and Michigan with over 300 delegates, is a disgrace for the American people. Maps with only 48 states were being shown throughout the primary. These maps and math were inaccurate but convinced superdelegates that Obama was in the lead. Obama kept bragging: “I am the one with the most delegates, I have the most states, I am the one”

    There are 50 states in our country. Obama did everything in his power to convince everyone that there is only 48 by not recognizing millions of voters and disenfranchising the two states the Democrats need to win this fall. He fought against them “we have to follow the rules” Michigan and Florida would have put Clinton in the lead if Obama fought for the people. Why would he try to be fair?

    For those people that were too young to know President Clinton, he is not liked, but loved through out the world. Our country was thriving, the era was “upbeat” and there was peace in our country.

    There is no way to compare “Obama to either of the Clintons”. The Clintons were the most loved Presidential couple.

    The media has painted President Clinton as a racist in spite of the fact that he has an office in Harlem. He chose to be in harlem to help African Americans. He could have had an office on 5th Avenue overlooking Central Park. His years in office were spent fighting for civil rights and for the underdog, especially African Americans.

    The coverage of President Clinton and the Afircan American hatred towards Clintons was not only disgraceful, but cruel.

    Another issue needed to be discussed is as follows:
    On the January 21 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.’s Fox News Sunday, National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams noted that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) “comes from a father who was a Muslim” and added that “given that we’re at war with Muslim extremists, that presents a problem.”

    Trinity United Church of Christ, Tony Rezko, Louis Farrakhan and Muslim upbringing should have been a wake up call to Democrats.

    How much more bad news do we need to know about the Democrat candidate Senator Obama. before we realize that this man is laughing up his sleeve at all of us.

    Now Obama will have to stand tall next to Clintons bragging about all they have done for him and how terrific they are. His supporters will have to brag about the Clintons good works for America also. What deception. This man is more than a typical politician, he’s a Chicago con.