Gay Marriage

California Proposition 8 Proponents Urge California Supreme Court to Reject a Stay of Gay Marriage Ban

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Flap receives e-mail from the Yes on California Proposition 8 Committee:

Dear Friends,

The five official Proponents of Proposition 8, along with the ProtectMarriage.com – Yes on 8 campaign, today filed legal papers with the California Supreme Court asking the Court to accept original jurisdiction of three lawsuits challenging the measure’s validity, seeking to intervene in the lawsuits as Real Parties In Interest, and urging the Supreme Court to reject a stay of the initiative.

We are confident that we will prevail on the merits and that Proposition 8 will be upheld.  

In calling for the Supreme Court to take original jurisdiction of three challenges to Proposition 8, we said in our legal papers, “The people of California are entitled to a prompt resolution of whether Proposition 8 properly amended their Constitution.  Proposition 8 was the subject of a vigorous and expensive campaign that generated an intense debate and very strong feelings on both sides.  The people have a right to know as quickly as possible the status and definition of marriage under the California Constitution.”

Three lawsuits have been filed with the California Supreme Court claiming that Proposition 8 is a “constitutional revision” and thus allegedly could not have been enacted by voters. While urging the Supreme Court to accept original jurisdiction of the challenges, the authors of the measure and our campaign committee, which spent approximately $38 million campaigning in favor of the proposition, expressed confidence that the Court would uphold Proposition 8. “When using the initiative process to amend the Constitution, the people exercise their sovereign power of self-government.  The three branches of government must accord profound respect and great deference to that authority, which is the very basis of the government’s democratic legitimacy,” we wrote in papers filed with the court.  

Our legal filing pointed out to the California Supreme Court that the courts in neighboring states have uniformly rejected nearly identical challenges to measures banning same-sex marriage. “Other courts addressing similar revision/amendment arguments under closely analogous constitutional provisions have rejected them,” we said. “Proposition 8 is simple, narrow, and targeted to a single issue.  It restores the definition of marriage to what it was and always had been prior to May 15, 2008—nothing more…Whatever one’s view of the wisdom of Proposition 8, the people of California have spoken and their will should be respected.”

We also urged the Supreme Court to deny the request of those challenging Proposition 8 to stay implementation of the initiative. We told the Court that a stay would create a class of “interim same-sex marriages whose validity would be highly questionable” when Proposition 8 is upheld.  Additionally, we told the Court that a stay of Proposition 8 would undermine the preeminence of the Constitution as the ultimate expression of the people’s will. “Enjoining or staying the enforcement of Proposition 8 – as if it were a mere statute or municipal ordinance to be set aside by the judiciary pending further proceedings, rather than a presumptively valid expression of the people’s sovereign will – would be widely perceived as the judiciary ignoring or countermanding the supremacy of the Constitution and silencing the voice of the people on a vitally important matter of public policy.  That would be deeply harmful to the democratic process.”

Seeking to intervene as Real Parties in Interest in the three lawsuits on behalf of the official proponents of the measure, we argued in court papers that their fundamental rights as initiative proponents are at stake. As official proponents, the five authors of Proposition 8 have a unique legal position that requires legal representation separate from that provided voters by Attorney General Jerry Brown. Our Motion to Intervene noted that Brown has vigorously opposed Proposition 8 and cannot be counted on to vigorously defend the measure. Additionally, we noted in our filing that Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger similarly cannot be counted on to defend the People’s vote since he has already publicly urged the Supreme Court to invalidate Proposition 8.  

The whole point of the initiative process is for the people to be able to pass laws despite opposition from government leaders.  It just makes no sense that we should have to rely solely on hostile government leaders to defend the will of the people when they opposed the measure in the first place.

Our legal team will continue to mount a vigorous defense of Proposition 8 and will update you on developments.

Thank you for your continuing support of Proposition 8.

P.S. — The cases seeking to invalidate Proposition 8 are Strauss v. Horton, S168047; City and County of San Francisco v. Horton, S168078; and Tyler v. State of California, S168066.

Indeed, California voters have spoken but will the California Supreme Court roll the dice with their probable recall over gay marriage?

Remember Rose Bird and the death penalty?

Stay tuned……

Update:

In the meantime, California Attorney General Jerry Brown, an anti-Proposition 8 supporter, today asked the California Supreme Court to also reject a stay in the implementation of Proposition 8.

Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown today urged the California Supreme Court to review lawsuits that seek to overturn Proposition 8, but to permit the measure to take effect during that review.

Brown, whose office is supposed to defend the initiative, said the lawsuits raised issues of statewide importance that should be addressed by the state’s highest court.

“But, due to the potential uncertainty that may be caused in important legal relationships by a temporary stay, the public interest would be better served by allowing Proposition 8 to remain in effect while expediting briefing,” Brown’s office said.

There would be mass confusion if the California Supreme Court issued a stay and there would be a flood of same sex marriages that would likely be invalidated once the court issued its ruling on Proposition 8 revision vs amendment issue.

The California supreme Court should NOT issue a stay in the matter, should hear timely arguments and dismiss the challenges to the vote of the California people.

Update #2:

Liberty Counsel
filed its preliminary opposition summarizing its position regarding why the California Supreme Court should not consider petitions seeking to overturn the California Marriage Protection Act (Proposition 8). The Court has asked each party to provide these today. Liberty Counsel previously filed a motion to intervene on behalf of Campaign for California Families, and Liberty Counsel is submitting its preliminary opposition proposed byinterveners.

Read Liberty Counsel’s filing here. (PDF File)


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7 Comments

  • Micha Elyi

    “Indeed, California voters have spoken but will the California Supreme Court roll the dice with their probable recall over gay marriage?

    Remember Rose Bird and the death penalty?”

    Yeah, I remember Rose Bird and the efforts to recall her because of her death penalty obstructionism. I also remember that the recall effort failed. I repeat, the recall failed. (Go ahead, look it up if you don’t believe men. I’m a California native and I lived through it.) So I doubt that the four California Supreme Court justices who voted to pervert the California State Constitution and the definition of marriage are much concerned about the will of the voters.

    Sure, Rose Bird was finally booted out of her seat and stripped of her Chief Justice’s robes by California’s voters but it happened during a periodic, routine retention election, not a special recall election.

    I also recall who placed Ms. Bird in that California Supreme Court seat in the first place: then-governor Jerry Brown and the Democrat-controlled state Senate. Democrats still dominate California’s Senate and now-Attorney General of California Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown is angling to grab the governorship again — despite the term limit law — after Gov. Schwarzenegger’s current term is up.

  • Flap

    If you recall all three of the Justices of the California Supreme Court were ousted including Rose Bird during the retention election in November 1986 and I was happy to vote her ass out of office. The others too.

    It will be easy to recall the current court from the list of Proposition 8 signatories. I believe only 15% is required to put them on the ballot.

    A recall election would be scheduled while Arnold Schwarzenegger is still Governor and probably running against Barbara Boxer for the U.S. Senate. Think Arnold will not see the handwriting on the wall in order to beat a conservative in the GOP primary election?

    The recall of the California Supremes is a slam dunk albeit a costly one.

    I can see the tv ads now: “Whether You like it or Not – again”

  • Shimano Fishing

    Gays, Marriage? Frisco is in California right? If gay couples are gonna get married anywhere in the world – and they are already – then you can bet it’s going to continue in California. One way or another.

  • Flap

    Nope. California Proposition 8 has been sustained by the California Supreme Court.

    Only traditional marriage between one man and one woman is recognized after passage.