Howard Dean: An Honest Living – Edwards Now Agrees

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Vs.

The Daily Kos has exerpts from the original Howard Dean transcript:

You — (applause continues) — you know, the idea that you have to wait on line for eight hours to cast your ballot in Florida — there’s something the matter with that. You think people can work all day and then pick up their kids at child care or wherever, and get home and then have a — still manage to sandwich in an eight-hour vote?

    Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives.

(Light applause.) But for ordinary working people, who have to work eight hours a day, they have kids, they got to get home to those kids, the idea of making them stand for eight hours to cast their ballot for democracy is wrong. We ought to make voting easier to do. Mail — Oregon has got it right. (Applause.)

However, Edwards responded that Dean “is not the spokesman for the party.”

Dean is “a voice. I don’t agree with it,” Edwards, a former senator and the Democrats’ vice presidential nominee in 2004, said Saturday at a party fundraising dinner in Nashville, Tenn.

Asked about Dean’s remark about Republicans and honest living, GOP chairman Ken Mehlman told NBC’s “Meet the Press”: “I’m not sure the best way to win support in the red states is to insult the folks who live there. I think that a better approach might be to talk about the issues you’re for.”

Now, John Edwards has responded on his blog:

What a flap has arisen over a disagreement about the way something is said! I was in Nashville over the weekend, thanking the good people of Tennessee who supported the Democratic presidential ticket this year, when I was asked whether I thought that it was fair to say that people who were Republican hadn’t done a good day’s work. Of course, I didn’t think so, and I said that. I don’t think our DNC chair, Howard Dean, would put it that way again if asked either. I disagreed with him, and I said so. And, I want to be clear, I would have to say so again if I were asked again. I said a lot of good things about Howard’s outreach program and invigoration of the internet as a communication and fundraising tool, but no one wrote about that. Instead the headlines blared that I disagreed with Howard. And then the flap arose: A chasm! A split! A revolt!

Instead, how about: Nonsense!
We are both talking about the Republicans and their failure to address the needs of working people. We both agree with this basic truth: This Republican president and this Republican majority are not doing what they should be doing for working people in this country. That’s a core belief we need to fight for. And what’s more, we agree that we – all Democrats and all working people – should be complaining, criticizing, and generally speaking out about this critical failure of the Republican party and offering our positive vision for America. And we have.

HUH?

It only gets worse:

Howard and I have been saying the same thing about this for years. Hear that? The same thing. For years. Have I ever put it some way that Howard wouldn’t agree with? Probably. And he put it in a way, once, just the other day, that I can’t agree with, since I come from a place where hard-working people, who are better served by the agenda and passion of the Democrats, somehow still vote Republican. But Howard and I are committed to a 50-state strategy that will reach out to those voters, in North Carolina, and in Kansas, and in Tennessee, across this country and tell the truth about what is happening in this country to their jobs, to their health care, to their forests and streams, to their vision of what this country is and should be.

What does it all mean?

Edwards is pandering and Howard Dean at the end of the day is still a moron.

Biden: Close GITMO Prison Base

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Senator Joe Biden, D-Delaware has said Sunday the United States needs to move toward shutting down the military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

“This has become the greatest propaganda tool that exists for recruiting of terrorists around the world. And it is unnecessary to be in that position,” said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.

A Pentagon report released Friday detailed incidents in which U.S. guards at Guantanamo desecrated the Quran. Last month, Amnesty International called the detention center for alleged terrorists “the gulag of our time,” a charge Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld dismissed as “reprehensible.”

Both of these stories have been widely discounted in the MSM and the blogopshere.

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, GOP Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, plans hearings this month on the treatment of foreign terrorism suspects at the prison camp.

Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, proposed that an independent commission take a look at Guantanamo and make recommendations.

“But the end result is, I think we should end up shutting it down, moving those prisoners,” he told ABC’s “This Week.”

“Those that we have reason to keep, keep. And those we don’t, let go.”

So, what does Plagiarising Joe Biden plan on doing with the prisoners? Let them go?

He added, “I think more Americans are in jeopardy as a consequence of the perception that exists worldwide with its existence than if there were no Gitmo.”

Senator, sounds like you are taking a talking point from your party chariman, Howard Dean.

There are about 540 detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Some have been there more than three years without being charged with a crime. Most were captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002 and were sent to Guantanamo Bay in hope of extracting useful intelligence about the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Senator Biden is trying to garner attention on the Sunday talk shows again.

Isn’t he pathetic?

Howard Dean: America Safer When Democrats are in White House

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Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democrat National Committee, in a speech to Democrat supporters said, “I would make the argument that America is safer when Democrats are in the White House, than when Republicans are in the White House.”

There was no immediate response from the GOP to Dean’s comments Saturday, but RNC spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt said after Thursday’s speech that Dean’s “priority is to generate mudslinging headlines rather than engage in substantive debate.”

In the meantime, Democrat leaders, Senator Joe Biden and former Vice Presidential candidate and Senator John Edwards has said that Dean has gone too far:

Dean has said Republicans never made an honest living in their lives and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence. DeLay has not been accused of any crime.

Dean “doesn’t speak for me with that kind of rhetoric and I don’t think he speaks for the majority of Democrats,” Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

While discussing the hardship of working Americans standing in long lines to vote, Dean said Thursday, “Republicans, I guess, can do that because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives.”

Edwards responded that Dean “is not the spokesman for the party.”

Dean is “a voice. I don’t agree with it,” Edwards, a former senator and the Democrats’ vice presidential nominee in 2004, said Saturday at a party fundraising dinner in Nashville, Tenn.

Asked about Dean’s remark about Republicans and honest living, GOP chairman Ken Mehlman told NBC’s “Meet the Press”: “I’m not sure the best way to win support in the red states is to insult the folks who live there. I think that a better approach might be to talk about the issues you’re for.”

The Democrats made a BIG mistake allowing this moron to become their party chairman.

They are already paying the price in fundraising:

One hundred days into his tenure as the high-energy, higher-decibel chairman of the Democratic Party, Howard Dean is in trouble with party moneybags. The former Vermont governor seems to be doing a better job flaying the Republicans than bridging the cash chasm between the parties. Given Dean’s 2004 run as a populist crusader, moderates were never wild about his takeover of the Democratic National Committee. So some big donors are sitting on their wallets.

Oh Well!

Update #1

Instapundit has the links on the Howard Dean melt down and the Biden and Edward’s scolding:

BIDEN BLASTS DEAN on This Week: “He doesn’t speak for me with that kind of rhetoric and I don’t think he speaks for the majority of Democrats.”

Er, so what’s he doing as party Chair, then? (Via USS Neverdock).

UPDATE: John Edwards is singing from the same choirbook. Hmm. If I were Dean, I’d be worried.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Trey Jackson has the Biden video.