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Islam Watch: Dutch Muslims Say Proposed Burqa Ban a Violation of Freedom of Religion
An Afghan woman clad in a burqa chooses a sheep’s head at a market in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Nov. 13, 2006.
AFP: Dutch Muslims hit out at proposed burqa ban
Dutch Muslims have hit out at a proposed government ban of face veils, saying it was over the top, ill-conceived and infringed religious rights.
On Friday the Dutch cabinet said it was proposing a bill banning clothing that covers the face in public, targeting in particular Muslim woman wearing the burqa or niqab.
The burqa is an Islamic veil covering the entire face and body and a mesh screen to see through, while the niqab is a veil covering the face but leaving the eye area clear. The garments are worn by a few dozen women in the Netherlands.
Rita Verdonk, minister of immigration and integration, said the bill proposed a ban on the basis that covering the face constituted a risk to public order and safety.
The ban would be imposed in public and “semi-public” places such as schools, courts, ministries and trains, her spokesman Martin Bruinsma told AFP.
“In this country, we want to be able to see each other. The ban is a question of security,” daily De Telegraaf quoted on Saturday the minister as saying.
This is more of a question of compensating for failed Dutch immigration policies and the failure of Muslims in Holland to assimilate. Security sounds like an excuse to Flap.
But representatives of the country’s Muslim population were unimpressed.
“They are going to have to find a better argument than security. It is an infringement on the freedom of religion,” said Ahmed Markouch, a Moroccan mosques representative.
He predicted that the bill would go down badly with the country’s sizeable Muslim population, “because it comes from Verdonk, not because they are in favour of the burqa.”
Green Party lawmaker Mustapha Laboui, who is of Moroccan origin, said that although he believed the wearing of the burqa in Dutch society was “not logical”, he was sceptical as to the bill’s legality.
And Ayhan Tonca from the CMO, a group representing Muslims, said that such a law would be “useless”.
“The existing laws are sufficient for dealing with the problems. It’s over the top, a law for a dozen people!,” Tonca told AFP.
As in many European countries, the integration of immigrants is a hot topic in the Netherlands, and the bill comes just days before legislative elections.
This is definitely a political ploy before legislative elections. But, doesn’t the host country have a responsibility to assure assimilation of immigrants?
Holland should also consider what their population demographics and social welfare state have to do with their “Muslim” problem.
Stay tuned…….
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Islam Watch: Dutch Government Supports BAN on Burqa
Jack Straw MP Watch: Rushdie – “Veils – A Way to Take Power From Womenâ€
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Islam Watch: Dutch Government Supports BAN on Burqa
Dutch Minister for Justice Rita Verdonk speaks during a media conference after a meeting of EU justice and interior ministers at the EU Council building in Luxembourg, in this Monday Oct. 25, 2004 file photo. The Dutch government, facing re-election next week, said Friday, Nov. 17, 2006, it plans to draw up legislation ‘as soon as possible’ banning the head-to-toe garment known as burqas and other clothing that covers the entire face in public places. The announcement puts the Netherlands, once considered one of Europe’s most welcoming nations for immigrants and asylum seekers, at the forefront of a general European hardening of attitudes toward Muslim minorities. ‘The Cabinet finds it undesirable that face-covering clothing – including the burqa – is worn in public places for reasons of public order, security and protection of citizens,’ Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk said in a statement.
BBC: Dutch government backs burqa ban
The Dutch cabinet has backed a proposal by the country’s immigration minister to ban Muslim women from wearing the burqa in public places.
The burqa, a full body covering that also obscures the face, would be banned by law in the street, and in trains, schools, buses and the law courts.
The cabinet said burqas disturb public order, citizens and safety.
The decision comes days ahead of elections which the ruling centre-right coalition is expected to win.
Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk is known for her tough policies, and has clashed with past coalition partners.
Late last year she said the government would look into a ban after a majority in the Dutch parliament said they were in favour.
Flap doesn’t think such a ban would ever be tolerated/permitted in the United States – violates freedom of assembly, speech and religion.However, the Dutch and other European Social Democracies are belatedly recognizing their lax immigration policies of the past are biting them back in the ASS. These folks are simply not assimilating into Dutch culture and NOW wish to impose Islamic Sharia Law on the Dutch!The English and Jack Straw have attempted to draw the same line.
Will they achieve their objective of Islamic assimilation?
Probably not – unless they get tough and limit their social welfare state and Islamic immigration.
Stay tuned……..
Muslim women wearing veils out doing their shopping in Blackburn, England Friday Oct. 6, 2006. Britain’s former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw’s preference that devout Muslim women visiting his office remove their veils ignited a heated debate Friday about cultural isolation and tolerance in Britain. Straw is the Member of Parliament for the constituency of Blackburn.Previous:
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Global War on Terror Watch: Cat Stevens (Yusuf Islam) Tied to Radical Islamic Clerics
The Jawa Report: Claim: Cat Stevens Financed Terrorists, Tied to Radical Clerics
The Jawa Report has obtained evidence that Yusuf Islam, the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, was once connected to radical clerics Omar Bakri Mohammed & Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. According to at least one credible source, he was also involved in terrorist financing.
In an online voice chat from exile in Lebanon where he fled after British authorities banned several groups connected to him, Bakri told followers that various prominent Muslims would once frequent his office. Among those listed is Cat Stevens.
Read it all.
Flap dosn’t think most Americans would want to purchase Cat Steven’s soon to be released CD if they knew the proceeds were to finance radical Islamic terrorist organizations that want to kill Americans.
Is there any wonder why he continues to be barred from the United States?
Oh yes and Flap repeats:
DO NOT BUY YUSUF ISLAM’S NEW CD!
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Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly Watch: Sheik al-Hilaly “Will Be Voted Out”
The Australian: Sheik al-Hilaly ‘will be voted out’
TAJ al-Din al-Hilaly is set to be stripped of his title of mufti on the grounds that Australia’s 300,000 Muslims do not need a national leader.
The Australian: Sheik al-Hilaly ‘will be voted out’
The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, which appoints the mufti, will vote to abolish the position at coming elections.
AFIC spokesman Haset Sali said yesterday that the new executive board, expected to be elected in February, would work to remove the position of mufti from the council’s constitution because it was not relevant to Australian society.
Mr Sali said Australia did not need a mufti, nor was there anyone qualified to fit that post.
“I don’t believe Australia needs a mufti,” Mr Sali told The Australian.
“It needs a mufti like a hole in the head.
“And I just don’t think that there is someone who would be not only an eminent scholar but also capable of communicating in a constructive and positive way with the English-speaking community in Australia.”
In other words spin, finesse and lie about the Islamic teaching to the infidel Dhimmis of Australia. What a joke.
But, the Shiek apologized? Damn it seems the Muslims are learning from Democrat politicians in the United States.
The Australian: Sheik apologises to ‘cherished pearls’
While he expressed some contrition to the women of Australia, he attacked the “dubious media” and “devious groups” which he says have slandered and defamed him.
Australia’s most senior Muslim cleric collapsed with chest pains and was taken to hospital today following widespread calls for him to quit after delivering a sermon in which he compared immodestly dressed women to uncovered meat eaten by cats.
In a written statement given to the media at Canterbury Hospital in Sydney today, he admitted the metaphor was inappropriate for western society.
But he said the comments were made in a private lesson at Lakemba mosque during Ramadan and were not meant for the general public “and particularly not the general women of our Australian society”.
It was inappropriate for the general public and women of Australian society because they are “infidels” and Dhimmis anyway. Note how the Senior Muslim cleric of Australia really did not say what he said about “UNCOVERED MEAT” was MORALLY WRONG or not the teachings of Muhammed.
Maybe the Sheik is stepping down because he fancies the politically incorrect football team?
We all know why the Sheik MUST go. He was exposed teaching that which is taught throughout the Islamic World – the subjugation of women.
Oh Horrors!
Any comments from the feminists or Islamophilic Dhimmis?
Stay tuned………
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Global War on Terror Watch: Aussie Sheik Mohammed Omran – Judges Discriminate Against Muslim Rapists
Australian Hijab Watch: The “UNCOVERED†Meat
Britain Veil Watch: Veil FLAP Could Trigger Riots
Jack Straw MP Watch: Rushdie – “Veils – A Way to Take Power From Womenâ€
Jack Straw MP Watch: Veiled Threat?
Technorati Tags: SheikMohammedOmran, SheikTajal-Dinal-Hilaly, Islamofascist, Islam, UncoveredMeat
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Global War on Terror Watch: Aussie Sheik Mohammed Omran – Judges Discriminate Against Muslim Rapists
The Australian (Via LGF): Muslim controversy spreads to Melbourne
Just as Sydney’s Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly takes leave after his comments about women, the spotlight fell on comments by a Melbourne cleric, Sheik Mohammed Omran.
Sheik Omran reportedly told his flock on Friday judges discriminate against Muslim rapists.
He said rapes committed by Australian non-Muslims such as bikies or football stars were treated more leniently than those committed by Muslims, The Australian reports.
“I feel there is no justice here. Not 60 years and someone else three years, and they did the same crime. Why?,†Sheik Omran told worshippers at his Brunswick mosque.
“They make a big fuss about these kids because one of them, his name is Mohamed.
“Even if you kill someone you don’t go for 60 years.â€
It is believed he was referring to notorious Sydney gang rapist Bilal Skaf, a Muslim sentenced to 55 years jail for a series of rapes in 2000.
“This is where everything has gone unbalanced,†Sheik Omran said. “We don’t support criminals or crimes, but at the same time we want justice for everyone.â€
Sheik Omran also reportedly strongly defended Sheik Hilaly.
Oh and why not give special dispensation to the Muslim rapist? These women had it coming – they were UNCOVERED MEAT, right?
More 7th century “ENLIGHTENED” ideology from the radical Islamists.
In the meantime, Sydney’s Senior Muslim cleric, the proclaimer of UNCOVERED MEAT has asked for an indefinite leave from his duties.
Sheik Hilaly has asked for indefinite leave from his duties as Australia’s senior Muslim cleric.
On a dramatic day in which he collapsed and was rushed to hospital, the strain was showing on the religious leader whose comments comparing immodestly dressed women to pieces of meat have ignited a firestorm of controversy.
The sheik collapsed with chest pains during a meeting with Muslim leaders at Sydney’s Lakemba Mosque that was to have decided his future.
Stay tuned……..
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Cox & Forkum: NO FARE
Cox & Forkum: No Fare
Star Tribure: Airport taxi flap about alcohol has deeper significance by Katherine Kersten.
The taxi controversy at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport has caught the nation’s attention. But the dispute may go deeper than the quandary over whether to accommodate Somali Muslim cabdrivers who refuse to carry passengers carrying alcohol. Behind the scenes, a struggle for power and religious authority is apparently playing out. …
When I asked Patrick Hogan, Metropolitan Airports Commission spokesman, for his explanation, he forwarded a fatwa, or religious edict, that the MAC had received. The fatwa proclaims that “Islamic jurisprudence” prohibits taxi drivers from carrying passengers with alcohol, “because it involves cooperating in sin according to the Islam.”
The fatwa, dated June 6, 2006, was issued by the “fatwa department” of the Muslim American Society, Minnesota chapter, and signed by society officials.
The society is mediating the conflict between the cab drivers and the MAC. That seems odd, since the society itself clearly has a stake in the controversy’s outcome.
How did the MAC connect with the society? “The Minnesota Department of Human Rights recommended them to us to help us figure out how to handle this problem,” Hogan said. …
What is the Muslim American Society? In September 2004 the Chicago Tribune published an investigative article. The society was incorporated in 1993, the paper reported, and is the name under which the U.S. branch of the Muslim Brotherhood operates.
The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 by Hassan al-Banna. The Tribune described the Brotherhood as “the world’s most influential Islamic fundamentalist group.”Because of its hard-line beliefs, the U.S. Brotherhood has been an increasingly divisive force within Islam in America, fueling the often bitter struggle between moderate and conservative Muslims,” the paper reported.
The international Muslim Brotherhood “preaches that religion and politics cannot be separated and that governments eventually should be Islamic,” according to the Tribune. U.S. members emphasize that they follow American laws, but want people here to convert to Islam so that one day a majority will support a society governed by Islamic law.
Come on. Screw these Muslims. If they don’t wish to accept a fare for whatever Islamic reason and they own the cab great – don’t accept it. If not, get another job, man.
Remember the founders of this country fled Europe, why?
Religious intolerance
No Islamic Law in Minnesota, for Now by Daniel Pipes.
A week ago, it appeared likely that Muslim taxi drivers at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport would win special dispensation to avoid transporting alcohol-carrying passengers. The Metropolitan Airports Commission had proposed to give those Shar’i-minded drivers an off-colored light atop their cabs, allowing them to remain in queue while customers with bottles found other cabs.
I opposed this “two-light solution,” arguing in “Don’t Bring That Booze into My Taxi” that it intrudes Islamic law into a mundane transaction of American commercial life. I urged readers who share my views to write the commission to make known their views.
On October 10, a few hours after my article first appeared, the commission met and reversed itself on the two-light solution.
And now the Muslims think they can come here and begin to impose their Sharia religious laws?
NO WAY – Mohammed……
At Dhimmi Watch, Robert Spencer notices the Sura license plate, which comes as no surprise to me because I learned about it from his highly educational book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades).
Good reading………
Technorati Tags: Islam, ShariaLaw, MetropolitanAirportsCommission, MuslimAmericanSociety, MuslimBrotherhood
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Day By Day by Chris Muir October 28, 2006
Australian Hijab Watch: The “UNCOVERED†Meat
THE nation’s most senior Muslim cleric has blamed immodestly dressed women who don’t wear Islamic headdress for being preyed on by men and likened them to abandoned “meat†that attracts voracious animals.
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Australian Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali Watch: Will Resign – “After We Clean the World of the White House First”
Graphic courtesy of Tim Blair
The Australian: Hilali blasts the US
AUSTRALIA’S leading Muslim cleric, Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali, says he will only resign when the world is “clean of the White House”.
After emerging from Friday prayers at Lakemba Mosque today, Sheik al-Hilali was asked by a media pack whether he would quit over a speech in which he said scantily-dressed women invited rape.
“After we clean the world of the White House first,” the sheik said.
Supporters of the sheik cheered and applauded loudly at the comments, which were directed firmly at US President George W Bush.
The sheik has previously described Mr Bush, UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and Prime Minister John Howard as the axis of evil.
Despite calls from within the Islamic community for his resignation, Sheik Alhilali has been assured he has the support of grass-roots Muslims, a supporter said.
Islam is the religion of peace – MY ASS!
How about a one way trip to GITMO for this MORON? Or better yet a RENDITION to Eastern Europe with Chinese H20
tortureinterrogation?Other Muslim figures have called for him to stand down over a sermon last month in which he likened immodestly dressed women to uncovered meat.
Several thousand Muslims attended prayers at Lakemba Mosque today where British Imam Abdul Jalil Sajid gave the sermon in English in place of Sheik al-Hilali.
Supporter and president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, says the sheik will not resign but is taking a break which will include a pilgrimage to Mecca.
John Howard should make sure the good Shiek stays in Saudia Arabia. This Shiek is a MORON and very typical of the fundamentalist Islamists who wish to spread Islam throughout the western world.
Women of the West should mind his comments on “UNCOVERED MEAT” because believe it or not this is what they truly believe.
Mr Zrika said Sheik al-Hilali is not speaking for all Muslims and the LMA hopes to meet with him again shortly to discuss his situation.
Mr Zrika fears the sheik’s comments will cause a serious divisions within Muslims and a backlash from the wider Australian community.
He also asked Prime Minister John Howard and other politicians to stay out of the debate.
“Leave the Islam community to the Islam community,” he said.
Right…….
Stay tuned……
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Pope Benedict XVI Watch: Nun Forgives Somalia Killers
Sister Leonella Sgorbati (L) and Sister Jana Erena attend the SOS Day celebrations in Somalia’s capital Mogadishu in this July 2, 2005 file photograph. Gunmen killed Sister Sgorbati at a children’s hospital in Mogadishu on September 17, 2006 in an attack that drew immediate speculation of links to Muslim anger over the Pope’s recent remarks on Islam. The Catholic nun’s guard also died from pistol shots in the latest attack on foreign personnel in volatile Somalia.
AP: Colleagues: Nun forgave Somalia killers
Sister Leonella, a nun who devoted her life to helping the sick in Africa, used to joke there was a bullet with her name engraved on it in Somalia. When the bullet came, she used her last breaths to forgive those responsible.
“I forgive, I forgive,” she whispered in her native Italian just before she died Sunday in the Somali capital, the Rev. Maloba Wesonga told The Associated Press at the nun’s memorial Mass in Nairobi on Monday.
Sister Leonella’s slaying raised concerns that she and other foreigners killed in Somalia recently are victims of growing Islamic radicalism in the Horn of Africa country, where a hard-line Muslim militia has been expanding its reach.
The shooting was not a random attack and could have been the Muslim anger over remarks by Pope Benedict XVI linking Islam and violence, said Willy Huber, regional head of the Austrian-financed hospital where the Roman Catholic nun worked.
Several Somalis who witnessed Sunday’s attack by two gunmen also speculated the killing was related to the pope. But Abdurahman Mohamed Farah, deputy leader of the Islamic militia, disputed that, blaming it instead on Somali warlords who were driven out of Mogadishu in June.
And what religion is one of peace, forgiveness and love?
NOT this one….
Palestinians look at a fire at the gate of an Anglican church after it was hit by a firebomb in the West Bank city of Nablus September 16, 2006. Palestinian gunmen attacked churches in the West Bank and Gaza Strip on Saturday after a day of protests against comments Pope Benedict made about Islam. Five churches came under attack in the West Bank city of Nablus, where militant groups have long been the dominating force.
Or this one,,,,,
God Be with Sister Leonella Sgorbati.
Catholic Christians pray for nun Sister Leonella at the Holy Family Basillica in Nairobi, Monday, Sept. 18, 2006. The elderly nun who was gunned down at the hospital where she worked in Somalia’s capital Mogadishu was ‘specifically targeted before being executed by gunmen lying in wait,’ a hospital official said Monday.
Michelle Malkin has This what a real martyr looks like
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Pope Benedict XVI Watch: The POPE Must Die
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Pope Benedict XVI Watch: Pope “Deeply Sorry†for Reactions to Speech
Pope Benedict XVI Watch: Pope To Address Muslim FLAP
Pope Benedict XVI Watch: Taliban Demands Pope Apologize for Speech
Pope Benedict XVI Watch: The Speech at the University of Regensburg
Pope Benedict XVI Watch: Pope Sorry Muslims Have Found Speech Offensive
Pope Benedict XVI Watch: The Papal Islamic Comment FLAP
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Pope Benedict XVI Watch: The POPE Must Die
Iraqis set on fire an effigy of the Pope Benedict XVI and the German national flag during a protest in the southern city of Basra.
ThisisLondon: The Pope must die, says Muslim
A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution.
Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be “subject to capital punishment”.
His remarks came during a protest outside Westminster Cathedral on a day that worldwide anger among Muslim hardliners towards Pope Benedict XVI appeared to deepen.
Remember yesterday’s Islamic protest at Westminster Cathedral?
Who was really behind this protest?
MM via Dr. Rusty: Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.
More violence from RADICAL Islam.
Will the moderate Muslims ever speak up or do they all believe the Pope MUST die?
An man burns an effigy of Pope Benedict and a German flag during a demonstration in Basra city, south of Iraq September 18, 2006.
Stay tuned……..
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Pope Benedict XVI Watch: The Speech at the University of Regensburg
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