Why John McCain CANNOT Be the GOP Nominee Part Four
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Tom Delay on Fox News:”McCain has done more to hurt the Republican Party than any elected official I know of”
Flap has outlined the case against John McCain:
Now, there is his support and sponsorship of Kennedy-McCain on illegal immigration.
Michelle Malkin excoriates McCain on the issue over at National Review:
Not all of us have forgotten how the short-fused Arizona senator cursed good-faith opponents in his own party (“F**k you!†and “Chickensh*t†were the choice words he had for Texas GOP Senator John Cornyn during a spat over enforcement provisions). Not all of us have forgotten that he voted against barring felons from receiving amnesty benefits under his plan. Not all of us have forgotten the underhanded, debate-sabotaging manner in which McCain, Kennedy, Lindsey Graham, and Harry Reid conspired to ram their package down voters’ throats.
His admission of the shamnesty failure is grudging and bitter. While he now tells conservative voters what they want to hear about the need to build the southern border fence, he takes a contemptuous tone toward physical barriers when talking to businessmen. “By the way, I think the fence is least effective,†he told executives in Milwaukee, according to a recent Vanity Fair profile. “But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.†Straight talk? Try hate talk.
Flap is amazed that McCain is doing so well in Florida and Super Tuesday polls. Do GOP voters have a case of amnesia regarding McCain?
John McCain cannot be the GOP nominee.
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Samantha
Check out the new person endorsing in FL and read his qualificiation — can you say John McCain and Keating Five? This guy helped clean up the mess left by McCain and his co-partners in the Keating Five scandal:
JOINRUDY2008
The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee today announced the endorsement of Republican activist Peter Monroe of Pinellas County. Monroe will serve as a Co-Chair of the Mayor’s Catastrophe Advisory Committee.
“In Florida, we face a broken insurance market,†said Monroe. “Rudy Giuliani is the only presidential candidate who understands the need for a national catastrophe insurance fund, not only for Florida, but for many other states that face natural disasters and catastrophic events.â€
“We welcome Peter to the Mayor’s campaign and to the Advisory Committee,†said Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, Giuliani’s Florida Chairman. “He is a tireless advocate on the issues of a national catastrophe fund, and I know he will be a great asset to our campaign.â€
About Peter Monroe:
Monroe, a real estate lawyer, was a 2006 Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Florida. He has held senior leadership positions in Washington, including President of the agency charged with cleaning up the savings and loans crisis of the early 1990’s. Monroe also served as Chief Operating Officer of the Federal Housing Administration, the nation’s largest insurer of single family and multi-family housing. He is a graduate of Williams College, Oxford University and Harvard Law School.
Flap
Samantha,
Will he go on the stump to rat out McCain?
And, whatever happened to that front page New York times story that McCain had killed a month ago or so? It was a story about a corrupt lobbyist who did him some favors or not.
Samantha
New ads out today take on McCain and Romney right before the debate. Debate should be interesting tonight and look for an energized Rudy. Just received an update from my daughter in FL who heard a newsbreak down there discussing this endorsement and how it related to McCain being involved in the Keating 5 savings and loan scandal. She couldn’t quit laughing.
McCain had a small crowd in Palm Beach County and they had to take chairs away from the ballroom according to Fox News. Rudy had 700 at one stop yesterday and 1000 in Naples. Picture of Naples event is headed your way with an update you will enjoy.
S
Dennis
Samantha,
Thanks. I try to stay away from polls, but they don’t seem to be reflecting Rudy momentum.
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Ling
You know, in all the talk about Mccain, what I don’t see is the real reason why he’s attracting so many ‘political’ hits – His vendatta against Grover Norquist and other key components of the conservative coalition. For most of the last 5 years, he’s been gunning after them, taking them doing one after another. What he’s done is basically nullify their threat because he knew they would never let him win. Of course, in the process he destroyed the Republican party, but that’s just collateral damage…
Samantha
Did you all see the NY Times endorsement of the Democrat McCain? He sure isn’t a Republican. Here is the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri2.html?ref=opinion
Excerpt: We have strong disagreements with all the Republicans running for president. The leading candidates have no plan for getting American troops out of Iraq. They are too wedded to discredited economic theories and unwilling even now to break with the legacy of President Bush. We disagree with them strongly on what makes a good Supreme Court justice.
Still, there is a choice to be made, and it is an easy one. Senator John McCain of Arizona is the only Republican who promises to end the George Bush style of governing from and on behalf of a small, angry fringe. With a record of working across the aisle to develop sound bipartisan legislation, he would offer a choice to a broader range of Americans than the rest of the Republican field.
We have shuddered at Mr. McCain’s occasional, tactical pander to the right because he has demonstrated that he has the character to stand on principle. He was an early advocate for battling global warming and risked his presidential bid to uphold fundamental American values in the immigration debate. A genuine war hero among Republicans who proclaim their zeal to be commander in chief, Mr. McCain argues passionately that a country’s treatment of prisoners in the worst of times says a great deal about its character
Flap
Yeah, the New York Slimes true to form want a McCain vs Hillary non-contest. Then, they bring up Keating 5 and McCain is done.
End game for the Clinton cabal.
Samantha
Sidenote: Last night in the comments following the debate, someone from MSNBC said that Rudy would be on the front pages of Florida papers and sure enough this morning he is on the front page of the Tallahassee paper.
Have said all along that if the GOP nominated McCain, we would not have a Republican candidate running and the NY Times confirmed. The man looks like he has marbles in his cheeks when he tries to talk. I finally put the TV on mute and read the closed caption. Romney is boring and drones on and on and on. He is the plastic candidate like a puppet wound up that talks.
The moderators were horrible as usual as they didn’t distribute the questions fairly and allowed Romney to talk forever saying little. He also lied as did McCain. Just what we don’t need candidates that cannot tell the truth about what they did in the past. Both will get clobbered by the Clintons.
McCain didn’t support tax cuts of Pres Bush because he said they were for the rich. McCain cannot win a brokered convention as these are Republicans not indys or democrats.
Flap
Samantha,
Unless Rudy can pull it out in Florida and Super Tuesday it will be Hillary as the first woman President.
Tom Delay said it might be time to kick the ball to the Democrats, go on defense and after they screw everything up come back in two years and make in-roads in the Congress.
He does have a point.
If McCain or Romney break out watch the number of GOP Congressional retirements.
Bleak times for the GOP.
Will Bloomberg run if Romney is the nominee?
Samantha
I agree with your assessment. I think Bloomberg will run if Romney is the nominee and frankly he may have my vote. He is better then Hillary and I will not vote for the flip flopper that keeps lying about his record.
Honestly believe that Rudy will win Tuesday from everything I have heard from FL since this is a Republican primary and in FL they tend to discount the pundits and polls or President Bush would not be in office. I think the difference is this is a Republican primary. The fact that the Republican Party has allowed open primaries to give candidates a boost shows what an inept Party structure we have in place. All that pandering to the social conservatives who want to grow government by Rove to get votes has bit the GOP big time, and we are seeing the results today.
If Rudy is not the nominee, then I foresee a realignment of the parties. Republican Party as it is today with the social conservatives wanting the most conservative candidate in the primary cannot continue to survive IMO. In most states, you have to have Indy’s to get elected and the Republican Party with its social conservative candidates will continue to lose statewide races. The Contract with America had no social issues in it but the people elected acted like it did. Social issues are NOT a winning issue for Republicans IMO.
What we don’t need is a candidate that cannot tell the truth and McCain is the perfect example from this week:
From last night’s debate, McCain said: “I’m very well-versed in economics.”
Earlier in the week Sen. McCain: “The Issue Of Economics Is Not Something I’ve Understood As Well As I Should.†“ (earlier in the week)
He couldn’t tell the truth during the debate or he couldn’t tell the truth earlier in the week but was never called on it by the moderators who frankly were horrible. Boring debate, boring questions, and gave Romney way too much time to put people to sleeep.
My mini rant on what is wrong with the Republican Party of today which seems to be drifting along.
Flap
I agree with you especially with a realignment of the parties. The GOP is in for rough times.
Did you see Peggy Noonan’s piece in the Wall Street Journal today?
My question to you, Samantha: If Rudy falls on February 5 for whom will you support for the nomination? McCain or Romney? And…..
Will Rudy endorse McCain?
Samantha
Will not support, will not work, and would have trouble voting for either one.
Will not support a candidate (Romney) that names his favorite novel as a book by L Ron Hubbard which Romney did in April and then talked about how the two groups share the fact they are both new religions. Excuse me! No Thank you to Mr. Romney, the flip flopper, and the people he would bring to DC. He has DC lobbyist all over his campaign and says he is an outsider? Guess you could say he doesn’t always tell the truth.
As for McCain, he is no Republican and hasn’t been for years. The member of the Keating 5 needs retired IMHO not elected.
Think Rudy will endorse McCain over Romney, but the way Gov Perry has been talking he is planning an all out push in TX for Rudy if need be. Rudy wins FL and sticks a finger in the eye of pundits and pollsters on Tuesday is my prediction.
Once and for all pollsters need to be ignored as their methodology doesn’t work and why you see polls all over the place. When you look at who is behind some of these polls, it is scarey that people could actually pay attention. When you leave out whole areas of the Country when you poll, it is deceitful and wrong. Not to mention a national poll is garbage to start with as each state elects the candidate/President and we do not count votes nationwide something the pundits seem to not to be able to get through their brain cells. As for FL polls, look at their questions and where they poll to get the answer they want for the liberal media to spin.
Samantha
Will not support, will not work, and would have trouble voting for either one. If either are the nominee, it is time to actively explore realignment because the social conservatives will have effectively tanked the Republican Party with their narrow view of who should be the candidate. In Iowa, person after person said they liked Rudy’s policies but couldn’t get past he wasn’t pro-life and was married for the 3rd time but they will vote for him in the general. We are not electing a saint, we are electing someone who can govern and can win in November. Not sure I want to be in the same party with people that think like that if it gives me a McCain, Huckabee, or Romney.
Will not support a candidate (Romney) that names his favorite novel as a book by L Ron Hubbard which Romney did in April and then talked about how the two groups share the fact they are both new religions. Excuse me! No Thank you to Mr. Romney, the flip flopper, and the people he would bring to DC. He has DC lobbyist all over his campaign and says he is an outsider? Guess you could say he doesn’t always tell the truth.
As for McCain, he is no Republican and hasn’t been for years. The member of the Keating 5 needs retired IMHO not elected.
Think Rudy will endorse McCain over Romney, but the way Gov Perry has been talking he is planning an all out push in TX for Rudy if need be. Rudy wins FL and sticks a finger in the eye of pundits and pollsters on Tuesday is my prediction.
Once and for all pollsters need to be ignored as their methodology doesn’t work and why you see polls all over the place. When you look at who is behind some of these polls, it is scarey that people could actually pay attention. When you leave out whole areas of the Country when you poll, it is deceitful and wrong. Not to mention a national poll is garbage to start with as each state elects the candidate/President and we do not count votes nationwide something the pundits seem to not to be able to get through their brain cells. As for FL polls, look at their questions and where they poll to get the answer they want for the liberal media to spin.
My more than two cents this morning! Will now go read the Wall Street Journal.
Flap
I think a deal has been made. If Rudy fails in Florida, meaning not second place at least, he will run a non-aggression campaign against McCain to defeat Romney in the Northeast.
In return Rudy gets the nod as VP.
Note McCain’s praise last night.
McCain is a one termer at best and the country will need someone who can take over when he is done.
Rudy will have a hard time sitting back as VP but maybe has grown patient with age.
Rudy on the attack against the Clintons will be an awesome sight.
A McCain-Giuliani ticket is the only one I can vote for should Rudy fall short.
Samantha
Put like that I am with you. If Rudy is on the ticket that’s the only way I can vote for McCain and will work 24/7 to get them elected. I know the two are friends and I know McCain when he first came to Congress was a Conservative and will only serve one term. Maybe that is the best we can get this time — better then the alternatives. You may be on to something. That duo will realign the Party IMHO.
Rasmussen just moved Rudy up two points in FL. Realignment by Ras right before an election has started. I detest pollsters.
Flap
A McCain-Rudy ticket would re-unite the party and lead to victory. It would work in a reciprocal way should Rudy prevail for the top spot.
Watch for the two to work together to defeat Romney.
I suspect Huckabee will be on board too: Anybody but Romney…..
The polls have been wrong before and will be wrong again…..
Flap
Here is another scenario:
Romney wins Florida and Rudy finishes way back in third place.
Rudy withdraws and endorses McCain on the eve of Super Tuesday. McCain then wins New York, New Jersey and California.
Rudy campaigns for McCain in Texas and Pennsylvania.
Then, you know the deal was made……
Samantha
I think you are right and yes I think a deal has already been cut along these lines. If McCain wins Rudy becomes VP and if Rudy wins, McCain becomes SecDef. Your comment triggered something I heard back in the spring when Rudy was here for a fundraiser from one of the people in attendance that was for McCain but said Rudy was a close second. He said the two men will form an alliance before this is all over to Stop Romney because he will try to buy the election.
Flap
A “DEAL” explains Rudy’s reluctance to go UGLY against McCain.
They both realize that Romney will lead the party to ruination against the Clintons.
Through this “deal” glasses it will be interesting to watch the developments.
Samantha
It explains the total reluctance because Rudy is not a shrinking violet. McCain doesn’t really go after him either. I have read stories where they have gotten together to each lunch anytime McCain is in NY.
Sure makes me stop and look at everything differently. Should be an interesting time. I just remembered something else back when it looked like McCain would not be staying in the race, his people were going to come over to Rudy for the most part and had already said they would be on board if McCain dropped out of the race.
Romney will not do well against the Clintons IMHO — landslide for the Clintons.
Flap
The GOP establishment have already signed off on this deal – me thinks.
Look at the New York fundraiser for McCain.
Rudy knew he was cooked when that Politico story hit.
So, was he the set up man for McCain all along?
Samantha
I think you are correct. New York fundraiser was a shocker with who was there. Would also explain why Gov Crist didn’t endorse either candidate or Sen Martinez.
Good question if he was the set up man for McCain with McCain pledging to only serve one term.
Greg A
Tom Delay said it might be time to kick the ball to the Democrats, go on defense and after they screw everything up come back in two years and make in-roads in the Congress.
He does have a point.
If that Democrat were anyone but Hillary (and Bill), I might agree. She’s evil, and I’ll go down dying to keep her out of the White House.
Greg A
On the idea that Rudy and McCain may be working in concert, let me say that this was my speculation on Race42008 two weeks ago: http://race42008.com/2008/01/10/more-on-rudys-and-mccains-collusion/
Samantha
Greg — Think you are correct. I am with on Hillary. Who would have thought this Bush person from 2000 who fought so hard to defeat McCain might work to elect him. That would explain Rudy heading to FL and pulling out of the other states — an alliance was formed.
Samantha
Greg — Think you are correct. I am with you on Hillary. Who would have thought this Bush person from 2000 who fought so hard to defeat McCain might work to elect him. That would explain Rudy heading to FL and pulling out of the other states — an alliance was formed.
Flap
Now Mel Martinez is poised to endorse McCain. The fix is in…….against Romney.
Greg A
I think you’ve nailed it, Flap. Internals may be showing Romney edging ahead in FL. Rudy may be falling on his sword to keep Romney from winning there. Whomever wins FL will have a leg up to sweep on Feb. 5th. We may be watching a very swift wrap-up of the GOP nomination race over the next week and a half.
Samantha
I agree with both of you. Romney is advertising 24/7 in FL and sending out mailers using his own money. No way would Sen Martinez be doing this unless dynamics have changed since last weekend.
Romney will say whatever it takes and it is imperative he be stopped. I cannot believe I am even saying this but I will take McCain who is strong on the WOT any day over Romney the flip flopper from MA.
Maybe I can take solice in the fact that McCain did turn down Kerry in the end.
I am on board if this turns out like I have a bad feeling it is going to turn out. Everything has changed today in a lot of areas. I am hoping for the best and will be very happy but I am realist in the end. Romney has to be stopped.
Flap
ABR Anybody but Romney……
Samantha
Works for me! 🙂
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