Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is pictured as he speaks to the press following more U.S. debt reduction talks on Capitol Hill, July 26, 2011Well, something like that because their letter promises to reject Boehner’s Debt-Limit Plan.
Fifty-three Democratic senators have signed a letter to House Speaker John A. Boehner saying they intend to vote against his plan for an increase in the debt ceiling, virtually assuring its defeat in the Senate even as the speaker lines up Republican votes to pass it in the House on Thursday.
Votes are not final until they are cast. But if the Democrats hold to their promise in the letter, Mr. Boehner’s plan for a six-month increase in borrowing authority will not make it to President Obama’s desk.
“We heard that in your caucus you said the Senate will support your bill,” the senators say in the letter. “We are writing to tell you that we will not support it, and give you the reasons why.”
In the letter, the senators argue that a short-term extension of the debt ceiling would “put America at risk” and “could be nearly as disastrous as a default.”
Some compromise there, eh?
I say the House GOP and whatever Democrats who dare, pass the bill anyway and dare Dingy Harry to hold it up for defeat in the Senate.
To the Democrats then, you voted twice against House passed plans, so if it breaks the American economy, you own it baby – House/Senate Democrats and President Obama.
Here is the double dare letter to Boehner:
Dear Speaker Boehner,
With five days until our nation faces an unprecedented financial crisis, we need to work together to ensure that our nation does not default on our obligations for the first time in our history. We heard that in your caucus you said the Senate will support your bill. We are writing to tell you that we will not support it, and give you the reasons why.
A short-term extension like the one in your bill would put America at risk, along with every family and business in it. Your approach would force us once again to face the threat of default in five or six short months. Every day, another expert warns us that your short-term approach could be nearly as disastrous as a default and would lead to a downgrade in our credit rating. If our credit is downgraded, it would cost us billions of dollars more in interest payments on our existing debt and drive up our deficit. Even more worrisome, a downgrade would spike interest rates, making everything from mortgages, car loans and credit cards more expensive for families and businesses nationwide.
In addition to risking a downgrade and catastrophic default, we are concerned that in five or six months, the House will once again hold the economy captive and refuse to avoid another default unless we accept unbalanced, deep cuts to programs like Medicare and Social Security, without asking anything of the wealthiest Americans.
We now have only five days left to act. The entire world is watching Congress. We need to do the right thing to solve this problem. We must work together to avoid a default the responsible way – not in a way that will do America more harm than good.
And, here I thought Dingy Harry “The Iraq War is Lost” Reid was a deal maker?
Default, here we come….
It is, as many conservatives have said in floor speeches and statements of support for the Boehner bill, an important first step. The immediate cuts are small relative to our $14 trillion debt, but the trajectory of spending will now go down.
Before we get ahead of ourselves, it is important to remember this has to come to a vote in the House. (I suspect it won’t be all that close, unfortunately relieving some die-hards of the necessity of discarding their political purity.) It also has to get through the Senate, where other hardline Republicans, not to mention a whole lot of Democrats, will have to decide: Boehner or default?
And should this get through both houses, the president will have zero choice in the matter. He will sign it, and we will avoid default. And then the spinning begins. As for those GOP pols and pundits who favored the burn-down-the-building approach, there is perhaps time to reconsider whether they want to be on board with a vote that may change the course of our fiscal future and the shape of the Republican party.
And, looking at the polls today in the key battleground states, in another year, the GOP House Leadership will not have to worry about negotiating with Harry Reid or the White House.
House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, right, and Republican Conference Chairman Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas , center, listen as House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Va., left, speaks during a news conference at The Republican National Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, July 26, 2011Am I suggesting the GOP House Tea Party Caucus should hold their nose and vote for the Boehner debt-limit plan?
Yes, if you want to beat President Obama in 2012.
The debt-limit debate is heading toward a culmination, with President Obama reduced to pleading for the public to support a tax increase and Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid releasing competing plans that are the next-to-last realistic options. The question now is whether House Republicans are going to help Mr. Boehner achieve significant progress, or, in the name of the unachievable, hand Mr. Obama a victory.
Mr. Obama recognizes these stakes, threatening yesterday to veto the Boehner plan in a tactical move to block any Democratic support. The White House is afraid that it will pass the House and then become the only debt-ceiling vehicle if Mr. Reid can’t get 60 votes for his own proposal in the Senate. This would short-circuit Mr. Obama’s plan to blame the GOP for a U.S. credit downgrade, any market turmoil, a possible default, and the lousy economy too.
Read all of the rest of the piece.
The fact is American voters WILL blame the GOP for a further collapse in the economy and the polling is clear on the matter. Plus, there is no need for frightened credit markets or a possible default.
We will never achieve entitlement or tax reform with a doctrinaire liberal in the White House. Any agreements to do so in “out years” would probably be unenforceable even if agreement were achieved. And we can only do so much while controlling one half of one branch of government. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House Republicans, you have laid some great groundwork to rectify both of those situations. Now it is the time to accept a well-won victory and move on.
Thompson is RIGHT – time to move on, vote for the Boehner Plan and if Obama vetoes it, then he broke it.
Chris, President Obama has NO PLAN and neither do the Congressional Democrats.
Because they want to continue to tax and spend – as their ideology dictates. An ideology which has bankrupted the USA.
There will be a debt limit deal between Speaker Boehner and Senate leaders. Then, Obama will whine and sign the deal as the “grand compromise.”
In the meantime, “The One” will continue to plummet in the polls.
Michele Bachmann has it RIGHT: A one term President.
The Day By Day Archive
Day By Day by Chris MuirChris, granted Speaker Boehner is NOT a rock-solid Tea Party conservative but I do not give up hope for him. Maybe a little “Tea” Party for him will wake him up to the facts of dissatisfaction among the rank and file activists.
But, as far as Donald Trump is concerned. No “Tea” for him.
Of course, some of that plain speaking is against GOP orthodoxy. Trump has criticized the House Republican long-term budget issued this week by Rep. Paul Ryan (R) of Wisconsin, for instance.
“I think what Paul has done is very dangerous for the Republican Party,” Trump said Thursday.
Day By Day by Chris MuirThe 2010-11 Federal Budget deal between President Obama, Senator Harry Reid and Speaker John Boehner has turned out to be a stinker to Tea Party activists. The deal which averted a government shut down at the last hour last week is not something that conservatives can tout.
On the night the budget deal was struck to avert a shutdown, I argued that it was a deal that conservatives should be happy about. In light of further details that have emerged, I would no longer make such a statement.
Today, the Associated Press reports on a new Congressional Budget Office report showing that the deal that purported to slash spending by $38.5 billion for the remainder of the year, really only reduces outlays by a fraction of that amount, and only cuts this year’s deficit by a mere $352 million. If the $38.5 billion was chump change in the context of $14 trillion debt, I wouldn’t even know what to call $352 million. Bread crumbs, maybe?
The Day By Day Archive
GOP House Speaker John Boehner speaking in the House regarding Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the Tucson Shooting Incident
Unfair to criticise House Speaker Boehner?
Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) turned down an offer by President Barack Obama to travel on Air Force One to Arizona for a memorial service on behalf of the victims of Saturday’s shooting, a decision that has upset some Democrats.
Senior Democrats – who to date had been impressed with Boehner’s response to the Arizona tragedy – expressed surprise at what they saw as an unmistakable misstep by the new speaker: appearing at a partisan political event on the same night as the the president, first lady Michelle Obama, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Arizona congressional delegation come together at the memorial service for the victims of an attack that nearly took the life of a member of the House. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was critically wounded in Saturday’s attack, while six other people died and a dozen more were wounded.
“It is disrespectful for Speaker Boehner to skip joining the President’s and bipartisan congressional delegation to the Tucson Memorial so he could host a Washington D.C. cocktail party for RNC members,” said a Democratic leadership aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity
And, Boehner would have been criticised if he had gone – probably by the same Democrat operatives.
The Maria Cino RNC event was planned anyway and Speaker Boehner could not have made Air Force One, the flight and attend the Capitol Prayer Service.
The Boehner staffers also insisted that, as speaker, Boehner’s place is on Capitol Hill, not in Tucson. They noted that Boehner had opened an hours-long tribute on the House floor Wednesday to Giffords and the other shooting victims and attended a bipartisan prayer service afterward. Because Air Force One left at 1 p.m., Boehner couldn’t have flown to Arizona and also attended the Capitol prayer service.
But, nice try by the Democrats to paint Boehner as an unfeeling MORON who intentionally disrespects the President and slights the Tucson shooting victims, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.
In twin moves reflecting their new roles in the next Congress, Reps. John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) modified their official handles on Twitter.
Pelosi, the outgoing Speaker of the House, modified her Twitter name to drop her title, changing from “SpeakerPelosi” to “NancyPelosi.”
Boehner,meanwhile, transformed from “GOPLeader” to “SpeakerBoehner,” reflecting his assumption of the top spot in the House on Wednesday.
Pelosi’s account sought to downplay the downgrade, seeming to joke that followers should “rejoice” that her Tweets would be easier to retweet or copy to one’s own account – now that her handle was two characters
I’m now @NancyPelosi – 2 characters shorter than @SpeakerPelosi. RTers rejoice!
Boehner’s communications director, Kevin Smith, noted the change on his account, adding a “tcot” tag meant to flag the tweet for other conservatives on Twitter:
Check it out … @GOPLeader Boehner is now @SpeakerBoehner #tcot
The change in Twitter names is essentially a small one, though they serve as one 21st century signal of the change in power in the House.
Fifteen days before the 2010 Congressional Midterm elections and the Republican Party is maintaining a solid lead on the Congressional Generic Ballot.
Gallup’s tracking of the generic ballot for Congress finds Republicans leading Democrats by 5 percentage points among registered voters, 48% to 43%, and by 11- and 17-point margins among likely voters, depending on turnout. This is the third consecutive week the Republicans have led on the measure among registered voters, after two weeks in September when the parties were about tied.
The latest results are from Gallup polling conducted the past two weekends, Oct. 7-10 and Oct. 14-17, and based on interviews with more than 2,700 registered voters and more than 1,900 likely voters.
For Republicans to lead, or even be at parity with Democrats, on the generic congressional ballot indicates they are in a good position to win a majority of House seats in the upcoming elections. This is because of Republicans’ typical advantage in voter turnout, which in recent years has given that party an average five-point boost in support on Election Day.
If the elections were held today and roughly 40% of voters turned out — a rate typical in recent years — Gallup’s Oct. 7-17 polling suggests Republicans would win 56% of the vote — 8 points greater than their support from registered voters, and 17 points ahead of Democrats, at 39%. If turnout is significantly higher, Republicans would receive 53% of the vote (a 5-point improvement over their registered-voter figure), and the Democrats, 42%.
Most pundits are saying a 50 seat pick up for the GOP in the House which would give the Republicans the majority and a new Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who will replace Nancy Pelosi. On the other hand, the CW is that the Democrats will retain a majority in the Senate, but by only one or two votes.
Quite a contrast to just two years ago when Barack Obama was elected President and the Democrats won super majorities in both the House and the Senate.
Day By Day by Chris MuirRINO (Republican in name only) markers are a good question. A few well placed questions when they first run for office should do the trick.
Unfortunately in many Congressional Districts and/or for state office, big GOP machine politics prevails. Expedience of winning over the substance of the governing, you know.
New social media, Twitter, and the Tea Party Movement should keep these POLS more honest. At least voters will know their RINO proclivities BEFORE they go to the polls.
Re: the orange faux tan – notice how Rep. John Boehner, House GOP Minority Leader has suddenly gone pale.